1 00:00:37,569 --> 00:00:21,830 [Music] 2 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:41,860 explode the bazaars are your e-ticket 3 00:00:47,829 --> 00:00:44,530 ride into the world of the paranoid 4 00:00:52,110 --> 00:00:47,839 strap yourself in as we traverse the 5 00:00:55,259 --> 00:00:52,120 universe exploring the unexplained UFO s 6 00:00:57,639 --> 00:00:55,269 ghosts Lost Worlds 7 00:01:01,479 --> 00:00:57,649 cryptozoology waters as well as other 8 00:01:06,609 --> 00:01:01,489 dimensions it's time to take back the 9 00:01:09,730 --> 00:01:06,619 night now you are electrifying hosts of 10 00:01:26,949 --> 00:01:09,740 exploring the bizarre Timothy Begley and 11 00:01:30,130 --> 00:01:26,959 team sports Oh Tim Tim I don't mean to 12 00:01:33,940 --> 00:01:30,140 disturb you by meditating but what are 13 00:01:36,609 --> 00:01:33,950 you chanting about I'm chanting for 14 00:01:38,559 --> 00:01:36,619 world peace a healthy life for me and my 15 00:01:42,969 --> 00:01:38,569 friends and most of all for the 16 00:01:46,869 --> 00:01:42,979 continued success that's that's very 17 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:46,879 commendable of you mind if I join well 18 00:02:01,749 --> 00:01:48,170 absolutely not 19 00:02:04,740 --> 00:02:01,759 let's go oh well hey good evening Tim 20 00:02:12,220 --> 00:02:08,680 oh it's another beautiful day in the 21 00:02:14,830 --> 00:02:12,230 neighborhood here Tim it's Thursday 22 00:02:17,050 --> 00:02:14,840 night and I'm ready and I'm sure our 23 00:02:19,660 --> 00:02:17,060 audience is ready again for another 24 00:02:23,830 --> 00:02:19,670 fantabulous episode of exploring the 25 00:02:26,290 --> 00:02:23,840 bizarre we are going new age tonight all 26 00:02:27,910 --> 00:02:26,300 the way new age you know we have a lot 27 00:02:29,740 --> 00:02:27,920 of friends who are new agers I don't 28 00:02:31,860 --> 00:02:29,750 know if I put myself necessarily in that 29 00:02:34,899 --> 00:02:31,870 category I mean people who write books 30 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:34,909 like UFO hostilities and the evil agenda 31 00:02:39,580 --> 00:02:37,370 of the aliens I don't know if we could 32 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:39,590 be considered to new age but we do give 33 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:45,530 equal time to the yin and the yang and 34 00:02:54,660 --> 00:02:51,410 tonight it's time for the yang or is 35 00:02:58,270 --> 00:02:54,670 the yang anyway well suppose both equal 36 00:03:01,890 --> 00:02:58,280 alright well we'll soon find out where 37 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:01,900 we are positioned in the universal flow 38 00:03:08,260 --> 00:03:05,810 energy and we've got two great guess 39 00:03:10,630 --> 00:03:08,270 that with us tonight one of them in 40 00:03:13,900 --> 00:03:10,640 particularly has been a longtime friend 41 00:03:18,310 --> 00:03:13,910 of either at least on the internet and 42 00:03:20,500 --> 00:03:18,320 is responsible for a great advertising 43 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:20,510 campaign for some of our titles with a 44 00:03:27,730 --> 00:03:25,130 come out he isn't a great service where 45 00:03:29,050 --> 00:03:27,740 he provides I guess several hundred 46 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:29,060 thousand names of people who are 47 00:03:35,140 --> 00:03:31,850 interested in a subject and sends out 48 00:03:38,170 --> 00:03:35,150 the notifications all over the world but 49 00:03:42,100 --> 00:03:38,180 Tim why should I tell the audience who 50 00:03:43,990 --> 00:03:42,110 we have on when that's your task that's 51 00:03:46,990 --> 00:03:44,000 right now I'm and I'm happy to have this 52 00:03:49,270 --> 00:03:47,000 task Tim well tonight we're we're very 53 00:03:52,810 --> 00:03:49,280 happy to have with us dr. Roger mark 54 00:03:55,870 --> 00:03:52,820 dove and dr. Susan Chomsky now we'll 55 00:03:58,780 --> 00:03:55,880 start first with dr. Raja we worked of 56 00:04:02,220 --> 00:03:58,790 now Raja is a licensed minister with a 57 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:02,230 doctorate in naturopathy majoring in 58 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:04,370 urology and I'm not sure if I'm 59 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:06,650 pronouncing it correctly a nutrition he 60 00:04:10,660 --> 00:04:08,810 practiced for over a decade with an 61 00:04:12,820 --> 00:04:10,670 Alabama state license around the world 62 00:04:16,810 --> 00:04:12,830 before becoming a full-time et 63 00:04:19,630 --> 00:04:16,820 ambassador after a direct et contact in 64 00:04:21,430 --> 00:04:19,640 the Yucatan jungles in 1980 we'll have 65 00:04:23,470 --> 00:04:21,440 to talk to him about that one having 66 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:23,480 traveled this the planet performing 67 00:04:26,350 --> 00:04:25,210 sacred rituals with goodly 68 00:04:29,050 --> 00:04:26,360 extraterrestrials 69 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:29,060 after being awakened by the work of 70 00:04:36,700 --> 00:04:31,970 Brad's tiger in his revelations to my 71 00:04:39,820 --> 00:04:36,710 goodness there you know my friend Brad 72 00:04:43,660 --> 00:04:39,830 god bless no I I know I know Brad's 73 00:04:45,850 --> 00:04:43,670 writings influenced so many people in 74 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:45,860 his life well the book the writer was 75 00:04:51,970 --> 00:04:48,770 talking about was Brad's revelations the 76 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:51,980 divine fire now Roger then led 12 77 00:05:01,800 --> 00:04:57,250 disciples of the light to Palin cue 78 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:01,810 celebrating the harmonic convergence in 79 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:05,090 1987 he also led 11 workers 80 00:05:09,010 --> 00:05:07,250 to the light of the light to Egypt to 81 00:05:12,820 --> 00:05:09,020 inaugurate 1111 82 00:05:18,700 --> 00:05:12,830 higher dimensional gateway and in 92 83 00:05:20,770 --> 00:05:18,710 that in 1991 so now dr. Roger Burke LOM 84 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:20,780 founded the Aquarian perspectives 85 00:05:26,710 --> 00:05:23,650 interplanetary mission that offers a 86 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:26,720 Syrian and play at ease Pleiades 87 00:05:33,550 --> 00:05:30,050 blessing sacraments to life-forms on 88 00:05:36,670 --> 00:05:33,560 this planet and probably others as well 89 00:05:38,710 --> 00:05:36,680 also with us tonight is dr. Susan 90 00:05:40,840 --> 00:05:38,720 Chomsky now dr. Chomsky has dedicated 91 00:05:43,450 --> 00:05:40,850 her life to helping people take command 92 00:05:46,629 --> 00:05:43,460 of their lives in highly effective 93 00:05:49,210 --> 00:05:46,639 powerful positive ways she's the author 94 00:05:49,870 --> 00:05:49,220 of 14 books published by Simon & 95 00:05:52,629 --> 00:05:49,880 Schuster 96 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:52,639 Random House new page and skyhorse 97 00:05:57,610 --> 00:05:55,250 publishing a pioneer in the human 98 00:05:59,400 --> 00:05:57,620 potential field she spent more than 50 99 00:06:02,969 --> 00:05:59,410 years training thousands of people 100 00:06:05,290 --> 00:06:02,979 meditation prayer affirmation and 101 00:06:07,540 --> 00:06:05,300 intuition her books have been published 102 00:06:10,029 --> 00:06:07,550 in several languages worldwide and 103 00:06:11,950 --> 00:06:10,039 several word number one amazon.com 104 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:11,960 bestsellers they include divine 105 00:06:17,770 --> 00:06:14,570 revelation Miracle prayer how to hear 106 00:06:21,070 --> 00:06:17,780 the voice of God ascension exploring 107 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:21,080 meditation exploring auras and her most 108 00:06:27,730 --> 00:06:24,410 recent is Mary she and me seeking 109 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:27,740 enlightenment with The Beatles guru so 110 00:06:31,659 --> 00:06:28,849 dr. Tomsky 111 00:06:32,950 --> 00:06:31,669 and dr. Raja murk dove thank you very 112 00:06:36,100 --> 00:06:32,960 much for being with us tonight on 113 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:36,110 exploring the bazaar thank you 114 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:38,690 oh this is this is gonna be at this is 115 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:41,090 we're gonna really get into this yeah I 116 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:44,330 want to ask you should I quit dr. dub or 117 00:06:51,930 --> 00:06:46,370 dub or Raja or how would you like to be 118 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:51,940 addressed yeah Raja is fine okay Roger 119 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:53,930 I've known you at least through 120 00:07:01,480 --> 00:06:57,650 correspondence for I don't know 15 years 121 00:07:03,219 --> 00:07:01,490 maybe longer than that but I I never did 122 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:03,229 really learned too much about your 123 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:05,210 background although I've known you've 124 00:07:15,690 --> 00:07:09,410 been very active in interplanetary and 125 00:07:23,219 --> 00:07:18,780 consciousness of where I 126 00:07:27,250 --> 00:07:23,229 let's go back to your to your youthful 127 00:07:29,740 --> 00:07:27,260 days two weeks ago and tell me a little 128 00:07:31,750 --> 00:07:29,750 bit about yourself tell me a little bit 129 00:07:38,050 --> 00:07:31,760 about yourself here your beginning in 130 00:07:44,340 --> 00:07:38,060 your origins yes I suppose I was always 131 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:44,350 different in that when I became aware of 132 00:07:53,310 --> 00:07:49,850 having my own mind that I seemed to 133 00:07:56,350 --> 00:07:53,320 think differently than the way the 134 00:08:00,460 --> 00:07:56,360 average person was being trained to 135 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:00,470 think in the schools I I felt that the 136 00:08:09,430 --> 00:08:03,010 schools were training grounds 137 00:08:15,129 --> 00:08:09,440 to make Americans good whatever that was 138 00:08:17,950 --> 00:08:15,139 and my consumers and loading a certain 139 00:08:21,100 --> 00:08:17,960 way and believing a certain way and 140 00:08:25,020 --> 00:08:21,110 everything was supposed to be matched up 141 00:08:29,830 --> 00:08:25,030 and yet if you didn't walk to if you 142 00:08:31,750 --> 00:08:29,840 marched or step to a different beat to a 143 00:08:35,459 --> 00:08:31,760 different drum you were considered odd 144 00:08:40,810 --> 00:08:35,469 at least yes and if you believe in 145 00:08:44,260 --> 00:08:40,820 extraterrestrials well you were really 146 00:08:47,590 --> 00:08:44,270 after the deep end and then if you were 147 00:08:49,930 --> 00:08:47,600 to add health foods back in the day you 148 00:08:54,730 --> 00:08:49,940 would call the health food nut if you 149 00:08:57,790 --> 00:08:54,740 were to eat healthy foods yeah so yes I 150 00:09:00,449 --> 00:08:57,800 was saying just very fact that believing 151 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:00,459 in extraterrestrials and believing and 152 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:04,130 eating health healthy foods was was good 153 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:07,490 for a human being and there was more to 154 00:09:12,790 --> 00:09:10,130 life than what we were taught in the in 155 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:12,800 the Catholic schools and that even the 156 00:09:19,630 --> 00:09:15,410 parochial schools the public schools and 157 00:09:22,570 --> 00:09:19,640 that we needed to reach out now luckily 158 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:22,580 I did believe that the United States of 159 00:09:28,829 --> 00:09:24,890 America was good because it was offering 160 00:09:32,730 --> 00:09:28,839 us the true possibility for freedom in 161 00:09:36,510 --> 00:09:32,740 in the Constitution and the preamble and 162 00:09:39,810 --> 00:09:36,520 the loss but the actuality of it has not 163 00:09:44,220 --> 00:09:39,820 been realized in fact it it's been taken 164 00:09:48,150 --> 00:09:44,230 over by many different beasts in fact 165 00:09:52,500 --> 00:09:48,160 the whole planet is sort of taken over 166 00:09:55,670 --> 00:09:52,510 by many different kinds of beasts now 167 00:09:59,510 --> 00:09:55,680 what would you say was your first 168 00:10:02,100 --> 00:09:59,520 experience I mean is there any pivotal 169 00:10:04,500 --> 00:10:02,110 point epiphany I believe that's the word 170 00:10:08,940 --> 00:10:04,510 I've heard thrown around from time to 171 00:10:14,210 --> 00:10:08,950 time that yeah did you in a you know in 172 00:10:20,190 --> 00:10:14,220 a different direction when I was 30 I 173 00:10:23,010 --> 00:10:20,200 they say that the Kundalini rises up the 174 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:23,020 chakras and the spinal column up fully 175 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:24,850 into the third eye on the ground 176 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:30,970 chocolate at age 30 is when the the man 177 00:10:39,210 --> 00:10:35,250 has opportunity to fully become aware 178 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:39,220 physiologically I was in the jungles of 179 00:10:49,470 --> 00:10:44,050 the Yucatan and I had an experience at 180 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:49,480 the foot of the temple after eating some 181 00:10:56,820 --> 00:10:51,490 mushrooms that were growing down there 182 00:10:59,880 --> 00:10:56,830 and I had precognition and teleportal 183 00:11:03,600 --> 00:10:59,890 app telepathy and I could talk with the 184 00:11:07,860 --> 00:11:03,610 gorillas and I was told that I am 185 00:11:12,330 --> 00:11:07,870 actually lived in them in that village 186 00:11:16,380 --> 00:11:12,340 before as an extraterrestrial then I had 187 00:11:20,700 --> 00:11:16,390 come to that village and helped to bring 188 00:11:23,750 --> 00:11:20,710 information and energy to it to uplift 189 00:11:27,630 --> 00:11:23,760 it to raise it up to a higher level and 190 00:11:30,570 --> 00:11:27,640 and that I had come back now as the 191 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:30,580 person that I am now to help bring back 192 00:11:37,650 --> 00:11:33,130 that information in the in that 193 00:11:47,830 --> 00:11:37,660 technology to a planet that needs to be 194 00:11:53,810 --> 00:11:51,140 it was that was what my mind told me 195 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:53,820 that my research okay okay all right I 196 00:11:57,050 --> 00:11:55,050 got you all right 197 00:12:03,890 --> 00:11:57,060 you were you were were you out of your 198 00:12:05,900 --> 00:12:03,900 body or well no that potenti talking 199 00:12:10,550 --> 00:12:05,910 about there there during the time with 200 00:12:13,790 --> 00:12:10,560 the mushroom yeah that was that was like 201 00:12:17,630 --> 00:12:13,800 the main experience that let me know 202 00:12:22,340 --> 00:12:17,640 that I was dealing with energies or that 203 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:22,350 were beyond the normal because I awoke 204 00:12:29,060 --> 00:12:26,850 in the field of the pyramids to hear 205 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:29,070 people talking about me 206 00:12:36,020 --> 00:12:34,050 oh maybe 60 feet behind me and I thought 207 00:12:37,790 --> 00:12:36,030 well that's odd and they said and that 208 00:12:41,630 --> 00:12:37,800 they were they were saying how odd I 209 00:12:45,590 --> 00:12:41,640 look sitting over there in meditation 210 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:45,600 pose under the tree and I thought what 211 00:12:54,860 --> 00:12:50,010 where are we talking about the 60s far 212 00:12:59,510 --> 00:12:54,870 1960s are we talking about the 1960s no 213 00:13:04,280 --> 00:12:59,520 this was 1980s Oh 1980 okay you're a 214 00:13:12,250 --> 00:13:04,290 late bloomer the early eighties yeah and 215 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:12,260 then and then I I heard the monkeys were 216 00:13:21,680 --> 00:13:17,450 calling out like like they were it was 217 00:13:26,780 --> 00:13:21,690 really it's like a fearsome call and 218 00:13:29,870 --> 00:13:26,790 then I realized I had a realization that 219 00:13:32,890 --> 00:13:29,880 no I wasn't to be afraid those monkeys 220 00:13:38,140 --> 00:13:32,900 that I had lived there before with them 221 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:38,150 and that I had come in and a shift and 222 00:13:44,750 --> 00:13:41,370 worked with the village people in that 223 00:13:48,770 --> 00:13:44,760 area including the monkeys and we all 224 00:13:51,500 --> 00:13:48,780 communicated together telepathically and 225 00:13:55,070 --> 00:13:51,510 use our imagination yeah had you done a 226 00:13:57,430 --> 00:13:55,080 lot of traveling at that point 227 00:14:00,320 --> 00:13:57,440 no that was the beginning of my trips 228 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:00,330 because that was where you might say 229 00:14:06,860 --> 00:14:04,530 that I was given my mission okay 230 00:14:09,610 --> 00:14:06,870 and what that one how would you how 231 00:14:13,730 --> 00:14:09,620 would you describe your your mission 232 00:14:18,560 --> 00:14:13,740 well it wasn't until later that I went 233 00:14:20,900 --> 00:14:18,570 back up to Arizona from that experience 234 00:14:23,300 --> 00:14:20,910 and a few others and I was I had 235 00:14:27,050 --> 00:14:23,310 hepatitis you might even say I was dying 236 00:14:29,180 --> 00:14:27,060 from hepatitis I was where I was turned 237 00:14:32,060 --> 00:14:29,190 I was very yellow and yellow jaundice 238 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:32,070 and I had just barely made it over the 239 00:14:37,850 --> 00:14:35,130 border I was in Tucson and I went into 240 00:14:40,190 --> 00:14:37,860 the doctor their medical doctor because 241 00:14:43,700 --> 00:14:40,200 I was nature fabric doctor but it was 242 00:14:46,220 --> 00:14:43,710 beyond my abilities to do anything to 243 00:14:49,820 --> 00:14:46,230 move it I was really sick sick very 244 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:49,830 sickly and I went to see DM Dean he said 245 00:14:56,150 --> 00:14:52,410 no sign there's nothing much that can be 246 00:15:00,380 --> 00:14:56,160 done because you're already very sick 247 00:15:03,260 --> 00:15:00,390 with hepatitis and your liver is flown 248 00:15:08,210 --> 00:15:03,270 up to 3 centimeters fast but it's normal 249 00:15:10,100 --> 00:15:08,220 and you're either you either die or your 250 00:15:11,900 --> 00:15:10,110 liver will get strong and you'll and 251 00:15:13,670 --> 00:15:11,910 you'll be okay but there's nothing that 252 00:15:17,300 --> 00:15:13,680 I can do for you there's no medicine 253 00:15:20,420 --> 00:15:17,310 nothing so I wrote back from that doctor 254 00:15:24,890 --> 00:15:20,430 on the bus as I was researching my books 255 00:15:26,990 --> 00:15:24,900 on on extraterrestrial phenomenon and 256 00:15:30,170 --> 00:15:27,000 what I was doing in the jungles and why 257 00:15:33,170 --> 00:15:30,180 I was researching this sort of in a very 258 00:15:36,410 --> 00:15:33,180 possessive way and I came across a book 259 00:15:41,450 --> 00:15:36,420 by grad stager regulation the divine 260 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:41,460 fire we published an addition to that I 261 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:43,890 don't know if it's the yeah and what are 262 00:15:48,170 --> 00:15:46,290 not very editions of that yeah yeah I 263 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:48,180 still have a few copies left but I think 264 00:15:51,710 --> 00:15:50,010 they were the badly prettier ones where 265 00:15:53,540 --> 00:15:51,720 some of the pages are upside down but 266 00:15:54,950 --> 00:15:53,550 then a good Brad stager book you 267 00:15:58,370 --> 00:15:54,960 couldn't read it you know standing on 268 00:16:01,300 --> 00:15:58,380 your head so that's okay yelling fight 269 00:16:05,090 --> 00:16:01,310 fight a great book very felt one of his 270 00:16:07,490 --> 00:16:05,100 finest no doubt yes yeah it was a 271 00:16:08,980 --> 00:16:07,500 wonderful book and it it was in a 272 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:08,990 library and 273 00:16:13,810 --> 00:16:10,610 I had just come out of that doctor's 274 00:16:16,780 --> 00:16:13,820 office and it seemingly fell into my 275 00:16:21,100 --> 00:16:16,790 hands and I was reading it and in there 276 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:21,110 it said that there was an he was 277 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:23,690 reporting an extraterrestrial experience 278 00:16:28,870 --> 00:16:26,810 with the guy who was down in the South 279 00:16:31,900 --> 00:16:28,880 American villages maybe Ecuador or 280 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:31,910 something and then he was he was dying 281 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:35,450 of hepatitis and his liver had flown up 282 00:16:42,150 --> 00:16:39,050 to 3 centimeters past what was normal 283 00:16:46,650 --> 00:16:42,160 for and he was dying but that he had an 284 00:16:49,269 --> 00:16:46,660 authentic extraterrestrial visitation 285 00:16:53,170 --> 00:16:49,279 where the extra-terrestrial said that 286 00:16:55,329 --> 00:16:53,180 they can heal him of that and he said oh 287 00:17:00,040 --> 00:16:55,339 thank you and they healed him of it and 288 00:17:02,500 --> 00:17:00,050 he was instantly healed and uh I said 289 00:17:06,429 --> 00:17:02,510 that's what's happening to me and I said 290 00:17:07,980 --> 00:17:06,439 not only it might heat dying of this but 291 00:17:11,470 --> 00:17:07,990 I also just had an extraterrestrial 292 00:17:14,260 --> 00:17:11,480 contact and I put the book I said surely 293 00:17:18,100 --> 00:17:14,270 to God I'm reading this miraculous 294 00:17:20,919 --> 00:17:18,110 experience to know that I too could be 295 00:17:23,199 --> 00:17:20,929 healed of this by an extraterrestrial I 296 00:17:26,949 --> 00:17:23,209 mean that's why it's happening and sure 297 00:17:28,990 --> 00:17:26,959 enough I put the book down and when I 298 00:17:32,530 --> 00:17:29,000 got off the book something told me that 299 00:17:35,620 --> 00:17:32,540 I was healed that I felt better I did 300 00:17:38,650 --> 00:17:35,630 feel better I didn't have to have 301 00:17:42,010 --> 00:17:38,660 something tell me that I felt better I 302 00:17:44,590 --> 00:17:42,020 felt better and I knew I was better and 303 00:17:47,620 --> 00:17:44,600 I knew I was healed I didn't need the 304 00:17:50,470 --> 00:17:47,630 doctor or even my advice or any advice 305 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:50,480 the yellowness had gone away and I was 306 00:17:57,850 --> 00:17:54,890 healed right after reading that so to me 307 00:18:00,220 --> 00:17:57,860 that was like miraculous that was an 308 00:18:03,850 --> 00:18:00,230 event in my life that was taking me 309 00:18:06,850 --> 00:18:03,860 another step toward showing me that the 310 00:18:09,330 --> 00:18:06,860 extraterrestrials were guiding me so 311 00:18:12,940 --> 00:18:09,340 that's when I began to realize that 312 00:18:16,090 --> 00:18:12,950 there I'm I have they chose me to do a 313 00:18:19,900 --> 00:18:16,100 mission and so I had to figure out what 314 00:18:22,150 --> 00:18:19,910 what in the world with the mission be so 315 00:18:24,670 --> 00:18:22,160 little things like this began happening 316 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:24,680 all around all the time including three 317 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:27,730 or four other experiences with beloved 318 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:33,050 Brad stager and Ken Beckley and at some 319 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:36,170 of the UFO Expos that you know and 320 00:18:41,290 --> 00:18:38,530 nowadays it's there's many 321 00:18:47,260 --> 00:18:41,300 extraterrestrial ambassadors and star 322 00:18:52,180 --> 00:18:47,270 seeds and even breadstick people that 323 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:52,190 are from here who actually are strong 324 00:18:54,790 --> 00:18:54,290 seeds they're seated they're human 325 00:18:58,210 --> 00:18:54,800 beings 326 00:18:58,720 --> 00:18:58,220 but they're seated with seed from the 327 00:19:04,270 --> 00:18:58,730 stars 328 00:19:06,690 --> 00:19:04,280 giving them an extraterrestrial life a 329 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:06,700 different a different reason for being 330 00:19:11,110 --> 00:19:10,490 did you ever have a face-to-face contact 331 00:19:18,370 --> 00:19:11,120 with anyone 332 00:19:28,180 --> 00:19:18,380 oh I did in meditation and nothing about 333 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:28,190 that well I had had visitation with 334 00:19:35,890 --> 00:19:34,490 saint-germain and for our audience I was 335 00:19:37,360 --> 00:19:35,900 just going to say yeah maybe there are 336 00:19:39,970 --> 00:19:37,370 some people in our audience that don't 337 00:19:42,580 --> 00:19:39,980 know who saint-germain is he is the the 338 00:19:46,420 --> 00:19:42,590 violent ray energy I mean that's how I 339 00:19:48,550 --> 00:19:46,430 always describe him but and he has 340 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:48,560 appeared physically to two people 341 00:19:56,050 --> 00:19:52,250 especially in on the Mount Shasta and 342 00:19:58,330 --> 00:19:56,060 California and he is the man who is said 343 00:20:02,740 --> 00:19:58,340 to be ageless but give us your 344 00:20:05,580 --> 00:20:02,750 definition on passive yes that's 345 00:20:06,910 --> 00:20:05,590 everything there is certainly true 346 00:20:10,890 --> 00:20:06,920 description 347 00:20:15,990 --> 00:20:10,900 he's also ascended master and the 348 00:20:20,170 --> 00:20:16,000 hierarchal master of the Age of Aquarius 349 00:20:23,500 --> 00:20:20,180 which gives him the status of being in 350 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:23,510 charge moves us of all the things that 351 00:20:30,010 --> 00:20:26,330 are going on in the in the Age of 352 00:20:33,210 --> 00:20:30,020 Aquarius in the fish'll capacity if if 353 00:20:35,500 --> 00:20:33,220 there is such in the hierarchal 354 00:20:38,860 --> 00:20:35,510 understanding there is 355 00:20:41,620 --> 00:20:38,870 and I've been to Tibet and and also 356 00:20:44,590 --> 00:20:41,630 India and meditated in these and he's 357 00:20:49,810 --> 00:20:44,600 he's come into the and the meditations 358 00:20:54,310 --> 00:20:49,820 there in India where he has one of the 359 00:20:57,100 --> 00:20:54,320 Masters of Theosophical society and one 360 00:21:01,300 --> 00:20:57,110 of the lodges that we stayed at there in 361 00:21:05,740 --> 00:21:01,310 India was a Theosophical raj where some 362 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:05,750 of the Masters and present past 363 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:08,570 presidents of that Lodge in touch with 364 00:21:16,630 --> 00:21:11,450 him and say he's baby like his students 365 00:21:18,220 --> 00:21:16,640 and he would manifest at the gravesite 366 00:21:20,350 --> 00:21:18,230 all right Tammany dinner up to here 367 00:21:22,360 --> 00:21:20,360 because we need to go to our bottom of 368 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:22,370 the hour break so would we come back we 369 00:21:26,770 --> 00:21:24,170 will continue our fascinating 370 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:26,780 conversation on exploring the bazaar so 371 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:30,530 stay tuned explore the bazaars are now 372 00:21:36,460 --> 00:21:34,250 back to exploring the bazaar with two of 373 00:21:39,820 --> 00:21:36,470 the most electrifying researchers in the 374 00:21:44,460 --> 00:21:39,830 Paranoid your hosts Timothy Becca Lee 375 00:21:49,900 --> 00:21:47,350 all right welcome back to exploring the 376 00:21:53,860 --> 00:21:49,910 bazaar and Tim if you don't mind I'd 377 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:53,870 like to ask Raja a quick yeah besides I 378 00:21:58,600 --> 00:21:56,570 jumped I jumped you high in the chat 379 00:22:03,070 --> 00:21:58,610 room and maybe I'm just too high for 380 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:03,080 those anyway let's pass them around are 381 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:06,890 you all right why and we'll bring a dr. 382 00:22:13,260 --> 00:22:08,650 Susan Chomsky into the conversation 383 00:22:16,360 --> 00:22:13,270 presently but there's there Susan Susan 384 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:16,370 we're gonna ask a Raja a quick question 385 00:22:24,490 --> 00:22:17,690 here and then we'll bring you in 386 00:22:28,570 --> 00:22:24,500 oh my question has to do with the the 387 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:28,580 magic mushrooms it's interesting to me 388 00:22:38,020 --> 00:22:31,810 because I have heard other people talk 389 00:22:44,110 --> 00:22:38,030 about how they feel like that there is 390 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:44,120 an intelligence with these mushrooms and 391 00:22:53,020 --> 00:22:50,090 that by consuming them it's it almost I 392 00:22:55,510 --> 00:22:53,030 don't know how to describe it it almost 393 00:22:57,940 --> 00:22:55,520 leads to like almost like a permanent 394 00:23:03,160 --> 00:22:57,950 connection between you and this 395 00:23:05,410 --> 00:23:03,170 intelligence and I know that Terence 396 00:23:07,690 --> 00:23:05,420 Mckenna at one time 397 00:23:10,630 --> 00:23:07,700 him and his brother had had speculated 398 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:10,640 that you know the the mushroom 399 00:23:24,420 --> 00:23:17,330 intelligence it's it's kind of their way 400 00:23:30,550 --> 00:23:24,430 to assist humanity you know into finding 401 00:23:36,930 --> 00:23:30,560 our place you know from the just really 402 00:23:40,630 --> 00:23:36,940 the the material world and in at least 403 00:23:43,900 --> 00:23:40,640 pointing us into a direction that that 404 00:23:46,740 --> 00:23:43,910 takes us beyond you know what we would 405 00:23:50,020 --> 00:23:46,750 call this reality and to become aware of 406 00:23:52,990 --> 00:23:50,030 other realities you know and and so I 407 00:23:57,010 --> 00:23:53,000 mean when when you had your experience I 408 00:23:59,470 --> 00:23:57,020 mean did you feel like that that this 409 00:24:01,840 --> 00:23:59,480 the case that you were actually in 410 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:01,850 communication with with another 411 00:24:10,660 --> 00:24:06,650 intelligence yes and that's very lovely 412 00:24:12,460 --> 00:24:10,670 that that is true that's a good thing in 413 00:24:14,470 --> 00:24:12,470 the Bible that says that all the 414 00:24:17,890 --> 00:24:14,480 laborers in the field of the Lord have a 415 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:17,900 mission in the spirit of the mushroom 416 00:24:23,710 --> 00:24:20,450 has a mission - and you're right and 417 00:24:27,810 --> 00:24:23,720 that was to beat humanity into the 418 00:24:30,580 --> 00:24:27,820 realizations of the realities of 419 00:24:34,330 --> 00:24:30,590 interdimensional communication with 420 00:24:38,590 --> 00:24:34,340 interest interdimensional species and in 421 00:24:41,380 --> 00:24:38,600 the Don Juan in the Carlos Castaneda 422 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:41,390 books called the spirit of masks of the 423 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:44,890 peyote cactus mescaline mescal Ito and 424 00:24:51,430 --> 00:24:48,610 said that it definitely has a definite 425 00:24:55,830 --> 00:24:51,440 personality and spirit consciousness and 426 00:24:59,020 --> 00:24:55,840 it was there to help educate and teach 427 00:25:03,150 --> 00:24:59,030 humans who were very young in their 428 00:25:07,510 --> 00:25:03,160 thinking and so the these ancient plant 429 00:25:10,150 --> 00:25:07,520 consciousness and the whale also whales 430 00:25:13,180 --> 00:25:10,160 and the Dolphins are supposed to be very 431 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:13,190 ancient consciousness can teach human 432 00:25:21,580 --> 00:25:17,890 humanity and through ingesting a the 433 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:21,590 mushroom the mescaline and the cactus in 434 00:25:28,110 --> 00:25:24,770 various ayahuasca we can have 435 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:28,120 experiences and even the frog medicine 436 00:25:32,260 --> 00:25:30,410 injecting frog nests and we can have 437 00:25:35,590 --> 00:25:32,270 experiences with other levels of 438 00:25:38,380 --> 00:25:35,600 consciousness that lead us towards even 439 00:25:40,870 --> 00:25:38,390 other levels of consciousness which down 440 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:40,880 there and those youngest for me was 441 00:25:48,610 --> 00:25:45,650 where aliens and in the monkeys became 442 00:25:53,530 --> 00:25:48,620 aliens and and I realized that there was 443 00:25:55,090 --> 00:25:53,540 another time and I I had expressing this 444 00:25:58,390 --> 00:25:55,100 to a Mayan shaman 445 00:26:00,670 --> 00:25:58,400 and I told him of that experience 446 00:26:02,020 --> 00:26:00,680 because the people were laughing at me 447 00:26:04,420 --> 00:26:02,030 and saying haha 448 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:04,430 this doesn't happen these are just 449 00:26:10,610 --> 00:26:08,330 legends this never really happened and I 450 00:26:13,070 --> 00:26:10,620 thought I 451 00:26:15,740 --> 00:26:13,080 thought this is true and then all of you 452 00:26:17,990 --> 00:26:15,750 folks down here believed then aliens 453 00:26:21,290 --> 00:26:18,000 came here and built these pyramids and 454 00:26:24,730 --> 00:26:21,300 then some of them are buried there and 455 00:26:27,290 --> 00:26:24,740 that they had times when there was some 456 00:26:30,830 --> 00:26:27,300 contact between the aliens and the 457 00:26:33,950 --> 00:26:30,840 humans and they said oh no no that 458 00:26:37,220 --> 00:26:33,960 happened hundreds and thousands of years 459 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:37,230 ago maybe that's not now we don't we 460 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:39,930 don't believe that I know what's wrong 461 00:26:44,750 --> 00:26:42,690 with the people even in the the ones 462 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:44,760 that believe the Bible they don't 463 00:26:49,370 --> 00:26:47,010 believe in the things that happened a 464 00:26:52,100 --> 00:26:49,380 long time ago as a thing as if they 465 00:26:53,950 --> 00:26:52,110 didn't really ever happen and I said no 466 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:53,960 these things happen and there's 467 00:26:59,960 --> 00:26:56,490 extraterrestrials come down and they 468 00:27:04,940 --> 00:26:59,970 live with the villagers and in the and 469 00:27:07,970 --> 00:27:04,950 the aches in speaks some unintelligible 470 00:27:08,630 --> 00:27:07,980 language as if they were a monster an 471 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:08,640 animal 472 00:27:14,510 --> 00:27:11,610 they spoke as intelligently as the human 473 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:14,520 or the extra-terrestrial in all three 474 00:27:20,270 --> 00:27:17,730 species got along evenly with even 475 00:27:22,549 --> 00:27:20,280 respect I don't know how that actually 476 00:27:26,090 --> 00:27:22,559 worked out but I thought that was a 477 00:27:27,610 --> 00:27:26,100 marvelous principle that they there was 478 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:27,620 a time on earth when the 479 00:27:33,770 --> 00:27:31,250 extraterrestrial and human and the ape 480 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:33,780 the English vested with all these plan 481 00:27:39,020 --> 00:27:36,330 of the ape movie sitting when we were 482 00:27:43,340 --> 00:27:39,030 all equals in love one another and 483 00:27:47,510 --> 00:27:43,350 treated each others as as an equal of 484 00:27:52,010 --> 00:27:47,520 being of equality not trying to conquer 485 00:27:52,700 --> 00:27:52,020 one another he was a time when there was 486 00:27:56,210 --> 00:27:52,710 peace 487 00:27:58,940 --> 00:27:56,220 times have changed seven thing hmm 488 00:28:01,930 --> 00:27:58,950 I said the time that have changed since 489 00:28:09,620 --> 00:28:04,910 Roger let's let's bring out dr. Tomsky 490 00:28:12,620 --> 00:28:09,630 into the conversation here so uh Susan 491 00:28:16,850 --> 00:28:12,630 thank you very much for your for your 492 00:28:21,410 --> 00:28:16,860 patience and like we asked Roger now you 493 00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:21,420 know I mean you gosh you have so many so 494 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:23,370 many books that you have have 495 00:28:30,049 --> 00:28:27,690 published here so what what got you 496 00:28:31,430 --> 00:28:30,059 started into all this you know a lot of 497 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:31,440 our guests we talked to them and you 498 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:32,970 know they had you know some kind of 499 00:28:38,690 --> 00:28:35,850 childhood experience or at least you 500 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:38,700 know became interested in this kind of 501 00:28:43,870 --> 00:28:42,330 stuff extremely early on was was this 502 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:43,880 the case with you as well 503 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:50,570 no it wasn't until Bob Dylan and the 504 00:28:57,049 --> 00:28:54,530 spiritual revolution of the 1960s oh 505 00:28:59,960 --> 00:28:57,059 when I lived in the San Francisco Bay 506 00:29:03,020 --> 00:28:59,970 Area and I was a hippie and those of us 507 00:29:06,020 --> 00:29:03,030 who were flower children we were really 508 00:29:08,660 --> 00:29:06,030 very serious about seeking spiritual 509 00:29:10,850 --> 00:29:08,670 awakening spiritual enlightenment yeah 510 00:29:14,930 --> 00:29:10,860 thanks for this yay for the Jefferson 511 00:29:17,030 --> 00:29:14,940 Airplane absolutely have you seen this 512 00:29:24,049 --> 00:29:17,040 saucers one of my favorite songs they 513 00:29:27,410 --> 00:29:24,059 did so I was living there and I was 514 00:29:30,290 --> 00:29:27,420 trying to read up as much as I could 515 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:30,300 about anything related to altered states 516 00:29:35,930 --> 00:29:32,730 of consciousness and higher states of 517 00:29:38,650 --> 00:29:35,940 consciousness and I was listening to the 518 00:29:42,169 --> 00:29:38,660 Guru's our gurus at the time who were 519 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:42,179 Timothy Leary and Richard Alpert who 520 00:29:47,930 --> 00:29:44,730 later became ROM Das and then we're 521 00:29:52,130 --> 00:29:47,940 telling us to turn on tune in and drop 522 00:29:56,590 --> 00:29:52,140 out so that's what I did and I was 523 00:30:00,770 --> 00:29:56,600 living as a flower child and so I read 524 00:30:02,930 --> 00:30:00,780 the Tibetan Book of the Dead Leary and 525 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:02,940 Alpert had written a book called the 526 00:30:06,830 --> 00:30:05,130 psychedelic experience and they you know 527 00:30:07,190 --> 00:30:06,840 that was a lot about the Tibetan Book of 528 00:30:09,140 --> 00:30:07,200 the Dead 529 00:30:11,030 --> 00:30:09,150 and I was reading the Buddhist 530 00:30:13,430 --> 00:30:11,040 scriptures I was reading autobiography 531 00:30:15,799 --> 00:30:13,440 of a yogi' by Paramahansa Yogananda and 532 00:30:18,890 --> 00:30:15,809 I was reading the way of Zen and other 533 00:30:21,460 --> 00:30:18,900 books by Ellen Watts and in Alan Watts 534 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:21,470 books it said that you have to find a 535 00:30:27,710 --> 00:30:25,890 meditation guide well in 1966 in 536 00:30:30,500 --> 00:30:27,720 Berkeley California you didn't exactly 537 00:30:33,590 --> 00:30:30,510 go to the yellow pages and find 538 00:30:37,190 --> 00:30:33,600 meditation guide or anything remotely 539 00:30:40,430 --> 00:30:37,200 similar to that so I asked 540 00:30:41,930 --> 00:30:40,440 a roommate I said well you know Alan 541 00:30:44,570 --> 00:30:41,940 watch says you have to find a meditation 542 00:30:46,129 --> 00:30:44,580 guy so how do I find one and he said 543 00:30:49,370 --> 00:30:46,139 well have you ever tried to meditate on 544 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:49,380 your own I said okay I'll give it a shot 545 00:30:52,909 --> 00:30:51,330 so I lay down on my bed that's how 546 00:30:54,350 --> 00:30:52,919 clueless I was it didn't even know 547 00:30:56,930 --> 00:30:54,360 you're supposed to sit up when you 548 00:31:00,279 --> 00:30:56,940 meditate I land my bed and I sort of 549 00:31:02,570 --> 00:31:00,289 prayed for or asked for in meditation 550 00:31:04,549 --> 00:31:02,580 immediately I was propelled into this 551 00:31:06,710 --> 00:31:04,559 ecstatic state I could feel this 552 00:31:08,450 --> 00:31:06,720 corridor rush of energy rushing from the 553 00:31:10,879 --> 00:31:08,460 tips of my toes all the way to the top 554 00:31:14,810 --> 00:31:10,889 of my head and I felt like I was plugged 555 00:31:18,769 --> 00:31:14,820 into a cosmic electric socket but in a 556 00:31:21,649 --> 00:31:18,779 most ecstatic way and I figured well I 557 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:21,659 guess this is meditation little did I 558 00:31:25,970 --> 00:31:23,730 know that not only did I have my first 559 00:31:28,430 --> 00:31:25,980 meditation experience but also Kundalini 560 00:31:31,450 --> 00:31:28,440 awakening all at the same time without 561 00:31:34,519 --> 00:31:31,460 drugs or anything completely sober and 562 00:31:37,759 --> 00:31:34,529 that's that was my first experience of 563 00:31:40,129 --> 00:31:37,769 meditation and not too long after that a 564 00:31:43,129 --> 00:31:40,139 friend took me to the Transcendental 565 00:31:46,159 --> 00:31:43,139 Meditation Center in Berkeley there 566 00:31:48,590 --> 00:31:46,169 wasn't any teacher there but I signed up 567 00:31:51,379 --> 00:31:48,600 to learn and then nine months later I 568 00:31:53,659 --> 00:31:51,389 had to wait for nine months and then the 569 00:31:55,909 --> 00:31:53,669 summer of love happened it was August of 570 00:31:57,830 --> 00:31:55,919 1967 during the summer of love and 571 00:32:02,409 --> 00:31:57,840 that's when I learned Transcendental 572 00:32:05,029 --> 00:32:02,419 Meditation so that was my introduction 573 00:32:07,820 --> 00:32:05,039 wow that's that's amazing though that 574 00:32:10,730 --> 00:32:07,830 you're the first time that you tried it 575 00:32:13,250 --> 00:32:10,740 that you you'll waken your Kundalini I 576 00:32:15,350 --> 00:32:13,260 mean most people you know have spent 577 00:32:21,470 --> 00:32:15,360 years trying to do that and and a lot of 578 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:21,480 never never got anyway but Kundalini is 579 00:32:25,370 --> 00:32:23,850 not the only not the end-all be-all it 580 00:32:27,289 --> 00:32:25,380 isn't the only way that a person can 581 00:32:28,909 --> 00:32:27,299 experience spiritual awakening and 582 00:32:31,970 --> 00:32:28,919 spiritual enlightenment it's just one of 583 00:32:34,879 --> 00:32:31,980 the signs that the energy is moving up 584 00:32:36,169 --> 00:32:34,889 through your body the energy can move up 585 00:32:37,149 --> 00:32:36,179 through your body without you even 586 00:32:40,430 --> 00:32:37,159 noticing it 587 00:32:41,930 --> 00:32:40,440 my guru who was Maharishi Mahesh Yogi he 588 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:41,940 used to always say that Kundalini 589 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:44,970 just meant that you were not spiritually 590 00:32:48,590 --> 00:32:47,010 awake because if you were spiritually 591 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:48,600 awake he wouldn't have those sensations 592 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:50,970 it would just you would just have the 593 00:32:56,180 --> 00:32:53,370 listen sation you would just feel the 594 00:32:59,360 --> 00:32:56,190 expansion and that's all now a lot of 595 00:33:00,830 --> 00:32:59,370 people when they think of you know 596 00:33:02,750 --> 00:33:00,840 meditation and and you know 597 00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:02,760 Transcendental Meditation I mean they 598 00:33:10,850 --> 00:33:05,760 they they think of something that you 599 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:10,860 know even though I know that meditation 600 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:13,890 was plastic practiced by the veneks for 601 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:16,650 you know over you know more than 602 00:33:27,470 --> 00:33:20,010 thousand years ago but that TM itself is 603 00:33:30,740 --> 00:33:27,480 a relatively recent introduction to the 604 00:33:34,580 --> 00:33:30,750 Western world I mean it it came about 605 00:33:37,399 --> 00:33:34,590 and what the I think the early 1960s is 606 00:33:41,750 --> 00:33:37,409 you know when most people became aware 607 00:33:44,810 --> 00:33:41,760 of it well in 1959 was when Maharishi 608 00:33:47,450 --> 00:33:44,820 first came to the United States at that 609 00:33:50,870 --> 00:33:47,460 time there was no meditation virtually 610 00:33:52,730 --> 00:33:50,880 no meditation no mantra no yoga yes 611 00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:52,740 there was the Theosophical Society which 612 00:33:57,409 --> 00:33:55,049 dr. Raja was talking about and there 613 00:33:59,720 --> 00:33:57,419 were there were small pockets of people 614 00:34:01,669 --> 00:33:59,730 who knew about these sorts of things but 615 00:34:03,140 --> 00:34:01,679 in general the general population didn't 616 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:03,150 know anything about it they'd never 617 00:34:07,610 --> 00:34:04,770 heard the word mantra they didn't know 618 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:07,620 what yoga was you know they didn't they 619 00:34:13,220 --> 00:34:10,290 had no clue and within 10 years 620 00:34:16,970 --> 00:34:13,230 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi made those into 621 00:34:19,659 --> 00:34:16,980 household words so he did so because of 622 00:34:22,460 --> 00:34:19,669 the fact that he became so famous he was 623 00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:22,470 its a mentor of the Beatles the Rolling 624 00:34:28,790 --> 00:34:25,649 Stones The Doors Mia Farrow Deepak 625 00:34:33,609 --> 00:34:28,800 Chopra you name it he you know he was 626 00:34:38,619 --> 00:34:33,619 their guru and hundreds and hundreds of 627 00:34:40,849 --> 00:34:38,629 superstar celebrities learned TM and 628 00:34:42,919 --> 00:34:40,859 Maharishi was on the Johnny Carson show 629 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:42,929 many times he was on the Merv Griffin 630 00:34:46,300 --> 00:34:45,450 Show it was on the cover of every major 631 00:34:49,879 --> 00:34:46,310 magazine 632 00:34:51,950 --> 00:34:49,889 time-life look Saturday Evening Post he 633 00:34:54,889 --> 00:34:51,960 was everywhere and everyone knew who he 634 00:34:59,000 --> 00:34:54,899 was that was back in the 70s you know 635 00:35:00,890 --> 00:34:59,010 60s 70s and then later really you know 636 00:35:02,060 --> 00:35:00,900 people forgot about it but they didn't 637 00:35:04,910 --> 00:35:02,070 forget about Transcendental Meditation 638 00:35:07,220 --> 00:35:04,920 and in fact it's become 639 00:35:08,839 --> 00:35:07,230 like a generic word for meditation when 640 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:08,849 in fact it's a cart 641 00:35:17,059 --> 00:35:12,930 it's a trademarked title of the form of 642 00:35:18,980 --> 00:35:17,069 meditation that Maharishi teaches so but 643 00:35:22,250 --> 00:35:18,990 it isn't you know like I'm really a new 644 00:35:23,930 --> 00:35:22,260 technique so much it uses ancient 645 00:35:25,789 --> 00:35:23,940 mantras that are just traditional 646 00:35:27,890 --> 00:35:25,799 mantras that are used in India that 647 00:35:31,250 --> 00:35:27,900 everybody knows there's nothing unusual 648 00:35:33,710 --> 00:35:31,260 about the mantras or anything but he did 649 00:35:37,460 --> 00:35:33,720 teach it in a way he had it had the way 650 00:35:39,950 --> 00:35:37,470 the technique of TM helps people to go 651 00:35:43,220 --> 00:35:39,960 very deep into meditation very quickly 652 00:35:46,430 --> 00:35:43,230 and really easily so that was what was 653 00:35:50,559 --> 00:35:46,440 revolutionary about it well I think that 654 00:35:53,809 --> 00:35:50,569 a lot of people first became aware of TM 655 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:53,819 because of its popularity with you know 656 00:35:59,329 --> 00:35:56,010 he said with celebrities especially the 657 00:36:01,339 --> 00:35:59,339 Beatles and The Rolling Stones that is 658 00:36:04,339 --> 00:36:01,349 correct and when the Beatles went to 659 00:36:07,549 --> 00:36:04,349 India to spend a couple months with 660 00:36:09,819 --> 00:36:07,559 Maharishi know everybody knew about it 661 00:36:14,059 --> 00:36:09,829 it was a big deal at the time 662 00:36:16,609 --> 00:36:14,069 1968 that was 50 years ago oh my gosh 663 00:36:19,779 --> 00:36:16,619 oh and one of the interesting things to 664 00:36:23,319 --> 00:36:19,789 me was how big of an influence 665 00:36:26,950 --> 00:36:23,329 especially with the Beatles 666 00:36:29,980 --> 00:36:26,960 TM and and the Maha Maha Rishi's 667 00:36:33,009 --> 00:36:29,990 teachings were I mean you could see 668 00:36:37,150 --> 00:36:33,019 really a radical change in their music 669 00:36:39,710 --> 00:36:37,160 from you know before and after 670 00:36:43,490 --> 00:36:39,720 absolutely they learned Transcendental 671 00:36:45,109 --> 00:36:43,500 Meditation in August of 1967 the same 672 00:36:48,499 --> 00:36:45,119 month that I learned they learned later 673 00:36:52,039 --> 00:36:48,509 in that month the same month and after 674 00:36:55,940 --> 00:36:52,049 that you know their their music really 675 00:36:58,190 --> 00:36:55,950 changed it became a very spiritually 676 00:37:00,920 --> 00:36:58,200 oriented the lyrics were very spiritual 677 00:37:03,710 --> 00:37:00,930 but even before that they were into they 678 00:37:05,269 --> 00:37:03,720 go as soon as they got into LSD that's 679 00:37:08,150 --> 00:37:05,279 when their music started to really 680 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:08,160 change a lot because they started 681 00:37:14,900 --> 00:37:12,930 singing about things like Tibetan Book 682 00:37:17,930 --> 00:37:14,910 of the bit of the Dead you know turn off 683 00:37:18,770 --> 00:37:17,940 your mind relax and slow down stream you 684 00:37:22,190 --> 00:37:18,780 know that's 685 00:37:26,300 --> 00:37:22,200 is about that book the psychedelic 686 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:26,310 experience actually and so you can 687 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:29,850 really see it in their lyrics altered 688 00:37:35,450 --> 00:37:32,490 consciousness' higher consciousness they 689 00:37:39,050 --> 00:37:35,460 were really taking a lot of LSD the 690 00:37:40,340 --> 00:37:39,060 Beatles and then for about five minutes 691 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:40,350 they stopped when they learned 692 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:42,210 Transcendental Meditation because there 693 00:37:47,510 --> 00:37:45,450 was a required you couldn't learn TM 694 00:37:50,180 --> 00:37:47,520 without stopping taking drugs 695 00:37:53,720 --> 00:37:50,190 so yeah they learned they learned and 696 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:53,730 they stopped but they started it in 697 00:37:58,100 --> 00:37:56,490 again soon after that in fact he got 698 00:38:02,140 --> 00:37:58,110 worse especially with John London 699 00:38:07,190 --> 00:38:02,150 because he became a heroin addict I know 700 00:38:09,350 --> 00:38:07,200 George especially was at first was 701 00:38:13,190 --> 00:38:09,360 really into the the you know the whole 702 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:13,200 psychedelic movement but you know a lot 703 00:38:18,110 --> 00:38:15,450 of his songs and and music you know 704 00:38:21,350 --> 00:38:18,120 really do seem to reflect you know that 705 00:38:23,690 --> 00:38:21,360 that TM influenced a lot more I think 706 00:38:27,380 --> 00:38:23,700 then you know like John and Paul later 707 00:38:30,290 --> 00:38:27,390 on yes that's very true 708 00:38:34,070 --> 00:38:30,300 yeah his music is very spiritually 709 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:34,080 oriented and even the song which is My 710 00:38:38,540 --> 00:38:34,650 Sweet Lord 711 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:38,550 it has some Sanskrit words which are 712 00:38:43,010 --> 00:38:41,010 guru brahma guru vishnu or guru devo 713 00:38:46,430 --> 00:38:43,020 maheswara guru sakshat for humble i'm 714 00:38:48,740 --> 00:38:46,440 hottest my sri gurave namaha and that 715 00:38:52,370 --> 00:38:48,750 particular verse those verses are from 716 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:52,380 the guru gita and those are the words 717 00:38:56,180 --> 00:38:54,450 that are in what they call the puja 718 00:38:58,070 --> 00:38:56,190 ceremony that is done when you learn 719 00:39:00,860 --> 00:38:58,080 Transcendental Meditation they do a 720 00:39:03,350 --> 00:39:00,870 ceremony and they sing those words 721 00:39:06,290 --> 00:39:03,360 during the ceremony and the words 722 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:06,300 themselves they mean the following I 723 00:39:12,740 --> 00:39:09,690 mean the guru is brahma vishnu and the 724 00:39:15,380 --> 00:39:12,750 great lord shiva the guru is the eternal 725 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:15,390 Brahman the transcendental absolute I 726 00:39:21,980 --> 00:39:18,810 bow to the supreme guru adorned with 727 00:39:23,780 --> 00:39:21,990 glory all right let me interrupt you 728 00:39:25,820 --> 00:39:23,790 here because we are coming up to our top 729 00:39:29,339 --> 00:39:25,830 of the hour break so when we come back 730 00:39:33,150 --> 00:39:29,349 we will continue our journey in 731 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:33,160 to the consciousness with dr. Raja and 732 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:51,280 explore the bazaars or e-ticket ride 733 00:39:57,630 --> 00:39:54,770 into the world of the paranoid strap 734 00:40:02,350 --> 00:39:57,640 yourself in as we traverse the universe 735 00:40:04,470 --> 00:40:02,360 exploring the unexplained UFO s ghosts 736 00:40:06,850 --> 00:40:04,480 Lost Worlds 737 00:40:10,690 --> 00:40:06,860 cryptozoology waters as well as other 738 00:40:12,930 --> 00:40:10,700 dimensions it's time to take back the 739 00:40:16,570 --> 00:40:12,940 NASA night 740 00:40:19,810 --> 00:40:16,580 now your electrifying hosts of exploring 741 00:40:26,260 --> 00:40:19,820 the bizarre Timothy Begley and teams 742 00:40:30,190 --> 00:40:26,270 wars the second hour of Explorer in the 743 00:40:35,260 --> 00:40:30,200 bizarre and tonight we are talking with 744 00:40:40,570 --> 00:40:35,270 dr. Susan Chomsky and dr. Raja market 745 00:40:42,550 --> 00:40:40,580 dove so Susan I want to continue our 746 00:40:47,380 --> 00:40:42,560 conversation here 747 00:40:50,410 --> 00:40:47,390 and what what led you to write the book 748 00:40:52,150 --> 00:40:50,420 your most current book Maharishi and me 749 00:41:07,560 --> 00:40:52,160 seeking enlightenment with the beetles 750 00:41:13,660 --> 00:41:10,270 publisher I wasn't sitting with an 751 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:13,670 editor in her office at Macmillan 752 00:41:23,860 --> 00:41:17,690 publishing and she was looking at what I 753 00:41:26,410 --> 00:41:23,870 was proposing to her and she said after 754 00:41:28,510 --> 00:41:26,420 she looked over my proposal and so on 755 00:41:31,330 --> 00:41:28,520 she said the book I want you to write is 756 00:41:37,510 --> 00:41:31,340 the book about your life that's the book 757 00:41:40,030 --> 00:41:37,520 I'm interested in this is in 1998 and it 758 00:41:43,330 --> 00:41:40,040 was two years after my first book was 759 00:41:47,830 --> 00:41:43,340 published which was 1996 so I said okay 760 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:47,840 I can write that book meanwhile within a 761 00:41:55,450 --> 00:41:50,810 few months she was fired from that 762 00:41:58,570 --> 00:41:55,460 publishing company so you know meanwhile 763 00:42:00,370 --> 00:41:58,580 I'd already started in this endeavor 764 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:00,380 which took me year 765 00:42:05,980 --> 00:42:04,130 years to do and so I completed it but 766 00:42:08,589 --> 00:42:05,990 you know meanwhile I tried to sell it 767 00:42:10,450 --> 00:42:08,599 several times through my agent and I 768 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:10,460 could never get it sold and I think it's 769 00:42:14,910 --> 00:42:11,930 because I didn't have the right angle 770 00:42:17,799 --> 00:42:14,920 for it but then finally in nineteen 771 00:42:21,039 --> 00:42:17,809 sixteen or seventeen or whenever I got 772 00:42:24,460 --> 00:42:21,049 my contract I finally got a contract 773 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:24,470 with skyhorse and so I the book came out 774 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:27,410 and I'm glad that it took this long 775 00:42:33,009 --> 00:42:30,170 because everybody tells me is such an 776 00:42:35,230 --> 00:42:33,019 amazing book and they tell me it's so 777 00:42:37,870 --> 00:42:35,240 well written I mean that just everybody 778 00:42:40,599 --> 00:42:37,880 says it's so amazingly well written so 779 00:42:44,769 --> 00:42:40,609 you know it took me forever to write it 780 00:42:48,009 --> 00:42:44,779 and I edited it 50 times but it's a good 781 00:42:52,390 --> 00:42:48,019 book so that's the truth of why I wrote 782 00:42:56,490 --> 00:42:52,400 the book I mean I I know that I've been 783 00:43:00,279 --> 00:42:56,500 enjoying it's great yeah verse that you 784 00:43:03,819 --> 00:43:00,289 sent me and well and and I have to admit 785 00:43:06,309 --> 00:43:03,829 I mean it it's country it really came 786 00:43:08,349 --> 00:43:06,319 out at a great time because I was just 787 00:43:10,559 --> 00:43:08,359 you know wondering when I started 788 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:10,569 reading it you know how many people 789 00:43:18,069 --> 00:43:14,210 anymore really remember this part of you 790 00:43:21,519 --> 00:43:18,079 know of you know a music history or just 791 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:21,529 you know you know history in general 792 00:43:27,009 --> 00:43:24,170 because I mean it was I mean I remember 793 00:43:33,460 --> 00:43:27,019 at that time I mean it was it was such a 794 00:43:37,269 --> 00:43:33,470 big influence on society and and now 795 00:43:40,170 --> 00:43:37,279 it's just you know not so much well but 796 00:43:43,240 --> 00:43:40,180 strangely not more popular than ever 797 00:43:46,089 --> 00:43:43,250 meditation and yoga are now the big 798 00:43:49,420 --> 00:43:46,099 thing especially yoga is the thing you 799 00:43:52,650 --> 00:43:49,430 know so that influence has definitely 800 00:43:54,819 --> 00:43:52,660 lasted and it's becoming an even 801 00:43:57,670 --> 00:43:54,829 Transcendental Meditation itself is 802 00:44:01,539 --> 00:43:57,680 enjoying a huge resurgence because of 803 00:44:04,870 --> 00:44:01,549 the David Lynch foundation which has 804 00:44:07,990 --> 00:44:04,880 been teaching a lot of celebrity 805 00:44:11,740 --> 00:44:08,000 Superstars to meditate and also they're 806 00:44:13,779 --> 00:44:11,750 endeavoring to teach people who are in 807 00:44:14,410 --> 00:44:13,789 need who are suffering like people in 808 00:44:17,950 --> 00:44:14,420 prison 809 00:44:20,470 --> 00:44:17,960 kids at-risk veterans women who are 810 00:44:23,289 --> 00:44:20,480 abused they're going over after those 811 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:23,299 kinds of populations to try to help them 812 00:44:29,589 --> 00:44:26,450 and really reach out to them so yeah TM 813 00:44:32,500 --> 00:44:29,599 is definitely becoming cool again let's 814 00:44:34,299 --> 00:44:32,510 put it that way when people like Katy 815 00:44:36,609 --> 00:44:34,309 Perry are going to the Vatican and 816 00:44:38,740 --> 00:44:36,619 giving lectures on TM at the Vatican 817 00:44:42,150 --> 00:44:38,750 which he did about a month ago 818 00:44:44,799 --> 00:44:42,160 so it says wow that's long overdue yeah 819 00:44:48,549 --> 00:44:44,809 hey did you did you ever get to meet any 820 00:44:51,970 --> 00:44:48,559 of the Beatles firsthand no I did not 821 00:44:54,339 --> 00:44:51,980 okay so I learned the same month as they 822 00:44:55,809 --> 00:44:54,349 did and then I started applying for 823 00:44:58,059 --> 00:44:55,819 teacher training when I started applying 824 00:45:00,609 --> 00:44:58,069 to every course I could apply to because 825 00:45:03,370 --> 00:45:00,619 I was so entranced with Transcendental 826 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:03,380 Meditation and I had my life had changed 827 00:45:08,049 --> 00:45:05,930 so dramatically that I really wanted to 828 00:45:10,299 --> 00:45:08,059 become a teacher so I started applying 829 00:45:11,559 --> 00:45:10,309 and I kept getting rejected over and 830 00:45:14,319 --> 00:45:11,569 over and over because they kept telling 831 00:45:16,359 --> 00:45:14,329 me that I was too young so in fact I did 832 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:16,369 apply to the course that the Beatles 833 00:45:24,039 --> 00:45:19,010 went on but you know I was too young so 834 00:45:26,410 --> 00:45:24,049 I didn't get accepted so Mia Mia Farrow 835 00:45:28,930 --> 00:45:26,420 sister prudence dear Prudence Farrell 836 00:45:31,780 --> 00:45:28,940 she got to go to that course though 837 00:45:33,370 --> 00:45:31,790 because her sister went because she was 838 00:45:35,109 --> 00:45:33,380 getting the same thing happen to her she 839 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:35,119 kept getting rejected and rejected and 840 00:45:40,089 --> 00:45:36,650 rejected because she's the same exact 841 00:45:42,940 --> 00:45:40,099 age that I am but finally I did get 842 00:45:46,299 --> 00:45:42,950 accepted and I went to India the course 843 00:45:49,210 --> 00:45:46,309 started in 1970 and first you know 844 00:45:51,339 --> 00:45:49,220 January of 1970 it started and that's 845 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:51,349 when I spent six months with Maharishi 846 00:45:57,010 --> 00:45:54,890 Zarin in Rishikesh India the course 847 00:45:58,870 --> 00:45:57,020 itself was three months and then I spent 848 00:46:00,670 --> 00:45:58,880 another three months with him and about 849 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:00,680 six other people there was hardly 850 00:46:05,049 --> 00:46:03,290 anybody there so I had a lot of private 851 00:46:09,460 --> 00:46:05,059 time with him during that period of time 852 00:46:12,190 --> 00:46:09,470 and it was quite an experience and I was 853 00:46:14,380 --> 00:46:12,200 21 years old at the time that was a 854 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:14,390 course where he allowed younger kids to 855 00:46:20,380 --> 00:46:17,410 go what would you say we're your biggest 856 00:46:23,170 --> 00:46:20,390 revelaed revelations after meeting him I 857 00:46:26,289 --> 00:46:23,180 mean out how did it exactly transform 858 00:46:28,030 --> 00:46:26,299 your your life it was really TM that 859 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:28,040 transformed my life not 860 00:46:33,460 --> 00:46:30,770 not necessarily meeting Maharishi it was 861 00:46:35,860 --> 00:46:33,470 actual the technique of TM that changed 862 00:46:38,770 --> 00:46:35,870 my life dramatically because I I had 863 00:46:42,070 --> 00:46:38,780 suffered a lot I was I was very unhappy 864 00:46:45,790 --> 00:46:42,080 and also I had taken these drugs which 865 00:46:48,790 --> 00:46:45,800 caused me to have a mental breakdown LSD 866 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:48,800 had caused me to have a really 867 00:46:56,230 --> 00:46:51,170 terrifying and horrifying mental 868 00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:56,240 breakdown and once I stopped taking the 869 00:47:00,220 --> 00:46:57,650 psychedelic drugs and learned 870 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:00,230 Transcendental Meditation for the first 871 00:47:04,570 --> 00:47:01,970 time in my life I experienced something 872 00:47:07,870 --> 00:47:04,580 I'd never experienced before and that 873 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:07,880 was happiness I had never really been 874 00:47:17,410 --> 00:47:12,770 happy so it was quite dramatic change 875 00:47:21,190 --> 00:47:17,420 I felt I felt so happy and I felt so 876 00:47:24,340 --> 00:47:21,200 calm peaceful and integrated and I was 877 00:47:27,310 --> 00:47:24,350 no longer having LSD flashbacks all the 878 00:47:31,170 --> 00:47:27,320 time and Horrible's really terrifying 879 00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:31,180 scary hallucinations and experiences so 880 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:34,730 my life changed so much for the better 881 00:47:39,580 --> 00:47:37,610 that I became a TM walking advertisement 882 00:47:42,220 --> 00:47:39,590 I was like trying to get everybody else 883 00:47:44,500 --> 00:47:42,230 it was like okay Susan we've heard 884 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:44,510 enough stop talking we don't want to 885 00:47:51,720 --> 00:47:48,650 hear you anymore so anyway I became a TM 886 00:47:55,510 --> 00:47:51,730 teacher and and then I also spent 887 00:47:58,450 --> 00:47:55,520 actually 22 years in maharishi's ashrams 888 00:48:04,180 --> 00:47:58,460 and six of those years I spent on his 889 00:48:06,610 --> 00:48:04,190 personal staff and when and when did he 890 00:48:11,230 --> 00:48:06,620 will finally come back to the United 891 00:48:13,510 --> 00:48:11,240 States it was 1976 when I came back to 892 00:48:15,430 --> 00:48:13,520 the United States Maharishi told me to 893 00:48:18,250 --> 00:48:15,440 leave and come back to the United States 894 00:48:21,300 --> 00:48:18,260 because he said you're too dependent on 895 00:48:24,940 --> 00:48:21,310 me as a person I won't always be here 896 00:48:27,180 --> 00:48:24,950 you should go so he sent me away that 897 00:48:29,460 --> 00:48:27,190 was completely devastating it was so 898 00:48:32,470 --> 00:48:29,470 horrible oh my god 899 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:32,480 now did you find when you got back to 900 00:48:37,750 --> 00:48:34,970 the car the country and the atmosphere 901 00:48:40,300 --> 00:48:37,760 had changed either for the good or not 902 00:48:41,980 --> 00:48:40,310 so good yeah when I came back to the 903 00:48:45,910 --> 00:48:41,990 states it was just 904 00:48:47,230 --> 00:48:45,920 oh gosh it was such a contrast to 905 00:48:49,660 --> 00:48:47,240 Switzerland I'd been living in 906 00:48:52,180 --> 00:48:49,670 Switzerland with Maharishi for almost 907 00:48:54,329 --> 00:48:52,190 six years was mostly in Switzerland 908 00:48:57,750 --> 00:48:54,339 which is this pristine and beautiful 909 00:49:02,079 --> 00:48:57,760 beautiful country and you know there's 910 00:49:09,070 --> 00:49:02,089 cowbells and open horns and velvety 911 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:09,080 green countryside Hill hills and you 912 00:49:13,720 --> 00:49:11,210 know you're ready to burst out in song 913 00:49:16,660 --> 00:49:13,730 like the sound of music or something it 914 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:16,670 was done like paradise in swiss alone 915 00:49:22,599 --> 00:49:18,170 and then I come back to New York City 916 00:49:25,270 --> 00:49:22,609 where it's like oh my god 1976 in New 917 00:49:27,730 --> 00:49:25,280 York City that's not the best time in 918 00:49:29,650 --> 00:49:27,740 New York City you know if you recall and 919 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:29,660 if you're around at that time but oh 920 00:49:37,359 --> 00:49:34,010 I've been here I've been in the same 921 00:49:40,359 --> 00:49:37,369 spot here for like 47 years but I 922 00:49:44,230 --> 00:49:40,369 haven't I haven't moved but now I'm 923 00:49:47,470 --> 00:49:44,240 being totally surrounded by skyscrapers 924 00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:47,480 I mean if you have you been to New York 925 00:49:51,700 --> 00:49:49,490 like in the last couple of years yeah 926 00:49:54,730 --> 00:49:51,710 they're all they all they all look the 927 00:49:57,690 --> 00:49:54,740 same and they just go up and up and up 928 00:50:00,339 --> 00:49:57,700 and there's no individuality and it's 929 00:50:01,839 --> 00:50:00,349 you know you go out to dinner and it's a 930 00:50:02,500 --> 00:50:01,849 hundred bucks and that's if you go by 931 00:50:07,060 --> 00:50:02,510 yourself 932 00:50:10,930 --> 00:50:07,070 exactly yeah you know it's a it has lost 933 00:50:13,540 --> 00:50:10,940 its I don't know I get I guess basically 934 00:50:16,329 --> 00:50:13,550 it's aimed at a different it was just a 935 00:50:18,820 --> 00:50:16,339 class of people I'm not a you know into 936 00:50:22,030 --> 00:50:18,830 class structure here and that much you 937 00:50:25,420 --> 00:50:22,040 know I mean but it just seems like it's 938 00:50:30,370 --> 00:50:25,430 shut out the rest of the of the world I 939 00:50:32,140 --> 00:50:30,380 suppose if I had it to do again I maybe 940 00:50:34,329 --> 00:50:32,150 should have well I would I would have 941 00:50:37,510 --> 00:50:34,339 liked to have problem more myself and 942 00:50:39,010 --> 00:50:37,520 now my health and it's part you get 943 00:50:42,579 --> 00:50:39,020 around but that was always my big 944 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:42,589 pleasure in in life is it just a head 945 00:50:48,490 --> 00:50:45,410 out on the open road how many countries 946 00:50:50,530 --> 00:50:48,500 have you been with - I never really 947 00:50:51,849 --> 00:50:50,540 never really counted how many countries 948 00:50:54,609 --> 00:50:51,859 I've been - I've been to a lot of 949 00:50:56,380 --> 00:50:54,619 countries and I every state in the 950 00:50:59,500 --> 00:50:56,390 United States because I live in an hour 951 00:51:02,259 --> 00:50:59,510 me and I have known bass Oh not only do 952 00:51:06,250 --> 00:51:02,269 I have an RV but I also travel really a 953 00:51:09,370 --> 00:51:06,260 lot because I I produce tours to sacred 954 00:51:15,549 --> 00:51:09,380 destinations I produce seminars that see 955 00:51:21,009 --> 00:51:15,559 I produce holistic conferences that see 956 00:51:23,349 --> 00:51:21,019 and I'm surprised I'm surprised I 957 00:51:31,450 --> 00:51:23,359 haven't run into you like it's Sedona or 958 00:51:35,349 --> 00:51:31,460 something along been just about yeah I 959 00:51:37,150 --> 00:51:35,359 travel really a lot and I'm and people 960 00:51:40,329 --> 00:51:37,160 tell me how you need to get a house you 961 00:51:48,519 --> 00:51:40,339 need to settle down I don't want to do 962 00:51:53,109 --> 00:51:48,529 that my nieces daughter just bought a 963 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:53,119 motor cycle and I told her man now you 964 00:51:58,690 --> 00:51:56,450 got freedom get out on the road and just 965 00:52:01,450 --> 00:51:58,700 keep well she has done a bit of 966 00:52:03,910 --> 00:52:01,460 traveling but just keep keep going you 967 00:52:07,539 --> 00:52:03,920 know I mean if you could if you could 968 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:07,549 take if you could be self-sufficient and 969 00:52:15,220 --> 00:52:09,890 and be able to go out and do all of that 970 00:52:17,009 --> 00:52:15,230 fine now doves there mister dove looking 971 00:52:22,809 --> 00:52:17,019 at your resume it looks like you've been 972 00:52:27,220 --> 00:52:22,819 everywhere but maybe China yeah that's 973 00:52:33,339 --> 00:52:27,230 about true and and maybe North Korea 974 00:52:37,230 --> 00:52:33,349 which I wouldn't suggest though not 975 00:52:40,650 --> 00:52:37,240 unless you play basketball then maybe 976 00:52:46,660 --> 00:52:40,660 pretty safe but where where did you find 977 00:52:48,130 --> 00:52:46,670 in your travels that were the most spear 978 00:52:49,839 --> 00:52:48,140 mean where were the people not 979 00:52:52,990 --> 00:52:49,849 necessarily you know meditating every 980 00:52:55,450 --> 00:52:53,000 day or or going to church or even having 981 00:52:59,609 --> 00:52:55,460 UFO sightings but which places would you 982 00:53:03,299 --> 00:52:59,619 say war more consciousness actually 983 00:53:07,140 --> 00:53:03,309 aware of everything that was going on 984 00:53:11,790 --> 00:53:07,150 well I in a sense 985 00:53:16,470 --> 00:53:11,800 I found Hawaii and India to be the most 986 00:53:20,730 --> 00:53:16,480 alive with spirit Energon and I think 987 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:20,740 the most Oh aware I don't know maybe 988 00:53:27,060 --> 00:53:24,970 California yeah that's that's kind of a 989 00:53:33,570 --> 00:53:27,070 surprise what way do where do you live 990 00:53:35,730 --> 00:53:33,580 now are you in Florida yeah oh you but 991 00:53:37,260 --> 00:53:35,740 you have you have the trout you have 992 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:37,270 travel though I mean even here in the 993 00:53:43,940 --> 00:53:39,610 United States I mean your your base of 994 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:43,950 operation has varied from time to time 995 00:53:56,730 --> 00:53:49,930 yes yes we've centered in Scotland and 996 00:54:01,770 --> 00:53:56,740 England Glastonbury London Mexico 997 00:54:03,630 --> 00:54:01,780 Central America well give me it give me 998 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:03,640 it give me a ticket 999 00:54:10,410 --> 00:54:08,170 you know I yeah I never been to Egypt 1000 00:54:13,530 --> 00:54:10,420 did you like did you like Egypt I mean 1001 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:13,540 were you tuned into hell you know it's a 1002 00:54:20,430 --> 00:54:17,170 very enslaved country and it's been 1003 00:54:23,610 --> 00:54:20,440 enslaved for so long that there's not 1004 00:54:26,750 --> 00:54:23,620 much you know it's nice to look at the 1005 00:54:29,580 --> 00:54:26,760 pyramids in the endless tanks and the 1006 00:54:32,550 --> 00:54:29,590 museums but there they're all it's like 1007 00:54:34,890 --> 00:54:32,560 in a hostile territory yeah taken over 1008 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:34,900 by it people who don't appreciate or 1009 00:54:41,580 --> 00:54:37,570 understand what it's all about and they 1010 00:54:43,860 --> 00:54:41,590 just use it as tourist traps we haven't 1011 00:54:45,870 --> 00:54:43,870 we have a we have a lady 1012 00:54:49,170 --> 00:54:45,880 I guess she's back in Australia now that 1013 00:54:50,910 --> 00:54:49,180 we stay in touch with and she moved them 1014 00:54:54,270 --> 00:54:50,920 there she got married and moved to Egypt 1015 00:54:56,310 --> 00:54:54,280 and she could not even open a post 1016 00:55:02,060 --> 00:54:56,320 office box on her own she had to get her 1017 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:02,070 husband to sign the papers for her okay 1018 00:55:07,590 --> 00:55:04,810 so I you know I don't know I I guess 1019 00:55:11,690 --> 00:55:07,600 maybe perchance it maybe has improved in 1020 00:55:16,830 --> 00:55:14,820 III don't have a sexist attitude but I 1021 00:55:21,029 --> 00:55:16,840 think a lot of people regardless of 1022 00:55:24,989 --> 00:55:21,039 their gender should be kept off the road 1023 00:55:29,219 --> 00:55:24,999 for for for sure you know so what what 1024 00:55:32,370 --> 00:55:29,229 is your main scope of operation that 1025 00:55:34,439 --> 00:55:32,380 today what do you I know you you've 1026 00:55:38,849 --> 00:55:34,449 worked with me and sending out and 1027 00:55:40,769 --> 00:55:38,859 distributing information to literally a 1028 00:55:45,029 --> 00:55:40,779 ton of people you probably have the 1029 00:55:50,069 --> 00:55:45,039 largest email list of anybody that I 1030 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:50,079 certainly know that's a plugged into how 1031 00:55:56,279 --> 00:55:53,410 did you generate that and and and you 1032 00:55:58,589 --> 00:55:56,289 know what a what do you kind of you know 1033 00:56:00,120 --> 00:55:58,599 like what are you kind of into yourself 1034 00:56:02,909 --> 00:56:00,130 you know I see all these other mailings 1035 00:56:05,999 --> 00:56:02,919 that you do but I I'm not too aware of 1036 00:56:08,630 --> 00:56:06,009 your own shenanigans there we started 1037 00:56:12,089 --> 00:56:08,640 the New Age marketing program like 1038 00:56:14,609 --> 00:56:12,099 working with the International new-age 1039 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:14,619 trade show yes 1040 00:56:23,249 --> 00:56:20,410 oh yeah yes and then we have marketing 1041 00:56:27,689 --> 00:56:23,259 teams and New Age websites and buyers 1042 00:56:30,539 --> 00:56:27,699 New Age products all over the world and 1043 00:56:32,819 --> 00:56:30,549 then we formed an email marketing 1044 00:56:36,449 --> 00:56:32,829 program so people that didn't want to 1045 00:56:39,049 --> 00:56:36,459 have to go to the Expos could still stay 1046 00:56:42,779 --> 00:56:39,059 in touch with other over the internet so 1047 00:56:45,959 --> 00:56:42,789 it's been very good to have over on a 1048 00:56:48,209 --> 00:56:45,969 thousand meters of people who stay in 1049 00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:48,219 touch and it's very helpful in selling 1050 00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:51,729 products staying in touch and what I'm 1051 00:56:58,679 --> 00:56:54,130 doing now is working for right party 1052 00:57:00,599 --> 00:56:58,689 calm as the ad vice president and the 1053 00:57:04,559 --> 00:57:00,609 head of that team is a medical doctor 1054 00:57:11,489 --> 00:57:04,569 with the Global Peace Foundation dot org 1055 00:57:15,049 --> 00:57:11,499 and this is a program to bring health 1056 00:57:18,479 --> 00:57:15,059 wealth peace freedom and justice to all 1057 00:57:21,359 --> 00:57:18,489 people in the United States and it's 1058 00:57:25,469 --> 00:57:21,369 it's a new political paradigm party 1059 00:57:29,659 --> 00:57:25,479 called light party calm health wealth 1060 00:57:37,500 --> 00:57:33,240 bye-bye the truth realizing that 1061 00:57:40,620 --> 00:57:37,510 happy joyful family love and might know 1062 00:57:44,250 --> 00:57:40,630 we need to do is get together and love 1063 00:57:47,300 --> 00:57:44,260 one another and it's it's a reality 1064 00:57:51,540 --> 00:57:47,310 instead of you know having fights and 1065 00:57:54,900 --> 00:57:51,550 Wars and killings we can actually here 1066 00:57:57,630 --> 00:57:54,910 care care for each other love wasn't and 1067 00:58:01,050 --> 00:57:57,640 that's the extraterrestrials message was 1068 00:58:04,590 --> 00:58:01,060 how can we come down there that have a 1069 00:58:06,750 --> 00:58:04,600 visual landing and be amongst people 1070 00:58:08,610 --> 00:58:06,760 when that you're killing everybody it's 1071 00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:08,620 like live it would be like landing in 1072 00:58:13,950 --> 00:58:12,370 the dense ground snakes oh man I got you 1073 00:58:16,850 --> 00:58:13,960 know come come on their or they're 1074 00:58:23,790 --> 00:58:16,860 already talking about having a space 1075 00:58:27,060 --> 00:58:23,800 space force I don't know who I I can't 1076 00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:27,070 imagine that our president is to wear of 1077 00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:31,090 the cosmic you know beings that might 1078 00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:34,450 exist all around this uh parallel 1079 00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:36,370 dimensions and other time zones and 1080 00:58:40,650 --> 00:58:38,410 things like that so I don't know 1081 00:58:44,940 --> 00:58:40,660 exactly he's going to protect us from 1082 00:58:47,910 --> 00:58:44,950 the Democrats I suppose I have no I I 1083 00:58:51,300 --> 00:58:47,920 have no idea it just seems very very 1084 00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:51,310 peculiar but that's that that's what it 1085 00:58:54,500 --> 00:58:51,610 is 1086 00:59:01,940 --> 00:58:54,510 but now okay did you ever see like a 1087 00:59:08,370 --> 00:59:01,950 fleet of UFOs or go inside a ship yes 1088 00:59:16,290 --> 00:59:08,380 yes but that's not a specific scope or 1089 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:16,300 focus for me was to actually go inside 1090 00:59:23,940 --> 00:59:21,010 the spaceship and fly around different 1091 00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:23,950 planets of course that would be 1092 00:59:32,070 --> 00:59:27,130 wonderful but I don't think that that 1093 00:59:34,020 --> 00:59:32,080 that was the reality that's possible now 1094 00:59:36,980 --> 00:59:34,030 we don't really have ships that come 1095 00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:36,990 here and they say okay let's go pick up 1096 00:59:44,790 --> 00:59:40,570 people captain it's very handsome math 1097 00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:44,800 and giving my design thing it doesn't 1098 00:59:50,630 --> 00:59:46,450 really happen like 1099 00:59:55,620 --> 00:59:50,640 but what I found out is that there is 1100 00:59:58,140 --> 00:59:55,630 there are advanced beings that live on 1101 01:00:02,280 --> 00:59:58,150 in higher dimensions and even other 1102 01:00:04,740 --> 01:00:02,290 planet joint bodies and that there is a 1103 01:00:07,380 --> 01:00:04,750 better way of living than how we're 1104 01:00:10,799 --> 01:00:07,390 living on this planet how about an 1105 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:10,809 either the earth I was just going to 1106 01:00:16,859 --> 01:00:14,170 mention that inside the earth is Talos 1107 01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:16,869 and there's beings that live on the 1108 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:20,170 inside the earth also they live down 1109 01:00:26,309 --> 01:00:23,530 there because the outside was got into 1110 01:00:29,190 --> 01:00:26,319 warring and killing and fighting so they 1111 01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:29,200 all went and stuff that's it we're not 1112 01:00:34,289 --> 01:00:30,970 going out in there anymore because it's 1113 01:00:36,539 --> 01:00:34,299 like never ended at around six so the 1114 01:00:39,839 --> 01:00:36,549 higher dimensional kings and the in 1115 01:00:43,410 --> 01:00:39,849 their inner earth beings don't come out 1116 01:00:45,359 --> 01:00:43,420 and have relations with human humanity 1117 01:00:50,130 --> 01:00:45,369 yet because they considered humanity 1118 01:00:52,559 --> 01:00:50,140 backward fallen raised group of people 1119 01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:52,569 that are still killing one another and 1120 01:00:58,349 --> 01:00:54,250 they're not learning to live with one 1121 01:01:01,440 --> 01:00:58,359 another and then kelpy do this prophecy 1122 01:01:03,690 --> 01:01:01,450 or this time of peace when all nations 1123 01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:03,700 including the Inner Earth and the other 1124 01:01:09,750 --> 01:01:06,210 planets will all get together 1125 01:01:12,390 --> 01:01:09,760 his some time off in the future I 1126 01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:12,400 remember his it hasn't gotten better or 1127 01:01:16,349 --> 01:01:13,530 worse than you think 1128 01:01:20,190 --> 01:01:16,359 God it seems to me like it's gotten 1129 01:01:21,380 --> 01:01:20,200 worse in some ways but until that's not 1130 01:01:24,839 --> 01:01:21,390 true 1131 01:01:27,839 --> 01:01:24,849 it just seems worse and when the outer 1132 01:01:31,799 --> 01:01:27,849 seems the worse we can know that the 1133 01:01:36,809 --> 01:01:31,809 inner is is moving and doing what it 1134 01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:36,819 needs to do you know I I used to really 1135 01:01:44,819 --> 01:01:40,450 work avidly when I was younger with lots 1136 01:01:47,460 --> 01:01:44,829 of energy in in motivation for peace the 1137 01:01:51,380 --> 01:01:47,470 work and lecture and go over and talk 1138 01:01:55,950 --> 01:01:51,390 about peace and law and now I just don't 1139 01:01:58,950 --> 01:01:55,960 relax and realize it you know it's all 1140 01:02:00,000 --> 01:01:58,960 coming about whether I ever lived 1141 01:02:03,180 --> 01:02:00,010 or not 1142 01:02:06,300 --> 01:02:03,190 no extraterrestrials ever saw them the 1143 01:02:07,980 --> 01:02:06,310 world is still going on and things are 1144 01:02:11,820 --> 01:02:07,990 still happening and people are dying 1145 01:02:15,630 --> 01:02:11,830 left and right to it of us but yeah you 1146 01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:15,640 had roots in the reactor you for many 1147 01:02:22,890 --> 01:02:19,210 years had a really wonderful soulmate 1148 01:02:26,070 --> 01:02:22,900 that you worked with hold well we got a 1149 01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:26,080 got a break coming up with yep let's 1150 01:02:31,530 --> 01:02:27,850 take our break here and we'll continue 1151 01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:31,540 on conversation when we come back for 1152 01:02:35,940 --> 01:02:33,130 the last segment of exploring the 1153 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:35,950 bizarre so stay tuned we got cheated at 1154 01:02:48,730 --> 01:02:46,180 now back to exploring the bazaar with 1155 01:02:52,030 --> 01:02:48,740 two of the most electrifying researchers 1156 01:02:58,750 --> 01:02:52,040 in the Paranoid your hosts Timothy Becca 1157 01:03:01,030 --> 01:02:58,760 Lee Anton's was back again and it's the 1158 01:03:04,450 --> 01:03:01,040 final segment of exploring the bazaar 1159 01:03:06,190 --> 01:03:04,460 for tonight and Susan well we've got to 1160 01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:06,200 here real quick why don't you tell us a 1161 01:03:13,420 --> 01:03:08,930 little bit about your UFO cruise it's 1162 01:03:16,540 --> 01:03:13,430 gonna take place in October of 2019 yeah 1163 01:03:19,630 --> 01:03:16,550 you know I do these holistic themed 1164 01:03:22,839 --> 01:03:19,640 cruises and they're really a whole lot 1165 01:03:26,140 --> 01:03:22,849 of fun and we invite various speakers 1166 01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:26,150 and authors and teachers and researchers 1167 01:03:33,940 --> 01:03:30,050 and investigators and so on to come on 1168 01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:33,950 the cruise ship and then you know we go 1169 01:03:41,530 --> 01:03:38,570 on a cruise and we use the conference 1170 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:41,540 room on the cruise ship and so we have a 1171 01:03:46,030 --> 01:03:44,330 conference at conference at sea so we're 1172 01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:46,040 in the we're on the cruise we're 1173 01:03:50,380 --> 01:03:47,690 enjoying all the amenities of the cruise 1174 01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:50,390 but we're also learning we're having a 1175 01:03:54,420 --> 01:03:52,490 wonderful time with the teachers that 1176 01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:54,430 that come on these cruises so I've done 1177 01:03:59,890 --> 01:03:57,410 already 15 of these and they've been 1178 01:04:04,089 --> 01:03:59,900 extremely successful and really so much 1179 01:04:06,540 --> 01:04:04,099 fun so I'm doing this UFO cruise that'll 1180 01:04:11,380 --> 01:04:06,550 be October 6 to the 13th 1181 01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:11,390 where were you go honey 19 20 19 we're 1182 01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:15,170 gonna go from San Diego to Mexico so 1183 01:04:22,930 --> 01:04:17,570 we're gonna go to cabo san lucas porta 1184 01:04:25,510 --> 01:04:22,940 viar-toe and Mazatlan nice yeah go on 1185 01:04:27,990 --> 01:04:25,520 all in America which is a really nice 1186 01:04:30,579 --> 01:04:28,000 cruise line that has fantastic food and 1187 01:04:33,730 --> 01:04:30,589 we're going to visit some of these 1188 01:04:36,130 --> 01:04:33,740 amazing places for example near Mazatlan 1189 01:04:38,980 --> 01:04:36,140 there's an amazing petroglyph site 1190 01:04:42,609 --> 01:04:38,990 that's a UNESCO heritage site that 1191 01:04:44,530 --> 01:04:42,619 nobody knows about and never goes to in 1192 01:04:46,870 --> 01:04:44,540 fact really the only groups that ever 1193 01:04:50,500 --> 01:04:46,880 visit there are my groups that I take 1194 01:04:52,420 --> 01:04:50,510 there but it's a wonderful really 1195 01:04:54,010 --> 01:04:52,430 important archaeological site it has a 1196 01:04:58,000 --> 01:04:54,020 thousand Petra 1197 01:05:01,240 --> 01:04:58,010 so long this gorgeous beach there and so 1198 01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:01,250 it's a fabulous destination and I always 1199 01:05:05,830 --> 01:05:03,770 find these really rare destinations to 1200 01:05:08,620 --> 01:05:05,840 go to at the ports whenever we go to 1201 01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:08,630 these places and often I'll invite like 1202 01:05:12,100 --> 01:05:11,330 a Mayan elder like for example Elizabeth 1203 01:05:15,850 --> 01:05:12,110 or Ajo 1204 01:05:19,030 --> 01:05:15,860 I'll have her she's from the council 1205 01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:19,040 Mayan elders in Guatemala and I invite 1206 01:05:23,530 --> 01:05:21,170 her to come and do a fire ceremony right 1207 01:05:25,750 --> 01:05:23,540 there on the land at one of the like 1208 01:05:29,970 --> 01:05:25,760 Maya temples or something like that on 1209 01:05:33,940 --> 01:05:29,980 our cruises so we have very unusual 1210 01:05:37,570 --> 01:05:33,950 kinds of shore excursions and always 1211 01:05:38,650 --> 01:05:37,580 some kind of sacred ceremony or 1212 01:05:40,900 --> 01:05:38,660 something like that 1213 01:05:43,630 --> 01:05:40,910 so my next cruise actually is going to 1214 01:05:44,610 --> 01:05:43,640 Tahiti and that's coming up in a couple 1215 01:05:49,390 --> 01:05:44,620 of weeks 1216 01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:54,100 [Music] 1217 01:06:00,130 --> 01:05:57,220 I've actually I actually spent a 1218 01:06:05,950 --> 01:06:00,140 vacation there with Pamela Anderson with 1219 01:06:07,810 --> 01:06:05,960 Pamela Anderson okay that was gone yeah 1220 01:06:11,290 --> 01:06:07,820 well she wasn't she wasn't in the same 1221 01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:11,300 well yeah actually she yeah she wasn't a 1222 01:06:16,390 --> 01:06:13,610 great superstar in those days and she 1223 01:06:18,490 --> 01:06:16,400 was doing a special for Showtime or 1224 01:06:21,100 --> 01:06:18,500 something like that the exotic girls of 1225 01:06:24,670 --> 01:06:21,110 the power Asia or something like that it 1226 01:06:26,710 --> 01:06:24,680 was a it was an extra bonus that they 1227 01:06:28,930 --> 01:06:26,720 didn't tell me about what I when I 1228 01:06:32,050 --> 01:06:28,940 signed up for the tour so I mean it was 1229 01:06:35,530 --> 01:06:32,060 it were it worked out pretty uh you know 1230 01:06:41,470 --> 01:06:35,540 pretty pretty well and it's a course 1231 01:06:44,500 --> 01:06:41,480 it's near Bora Bora right and you get to 1232 01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:44,510 handle the moray eels if you're not 1233 01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:48,050 afraid of big electrocuted to fight with 1234 01:06:53,290 --> 01:06:50,690 that which actually is a superstition 1235 01:06:55,540 --> 01:06:53,300 because what happens when you get there 1236 01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:55,550 and they're the moray eels and people 1237 01:06:58,630 --> 01:06:56,930 are like you know they're giving a 1238 01:07:00,340 --> 01:06:58,640 little shock out and maybe lighting up a 1239 01:07:03,070 --> 01:07:00,350 little the little children of the 1240 01:07:05,650 --> 01:07:03,080 village like you know eight years old or 1241 01:07:08,020 --> 01:07:05,660 ten years old after school go down and 1242 01:07:10,210 --> 01:07:08,030 pick up the you know the 1243 01:07:15,580 --> 01:07:10,220 Orioles and pretend to throw them as a 1244 01:07:17,020 --> 01:07:15,590 tourist I don't it's not like crocodile 1245 01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:17,030 havens so I don't think you have to 1246 01:07:25,060 --> 01:07:22,490 worry too much and yeah but fabulous 1247 01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:25,070 place they were to a visit and even 1248 01:07:30,910 --> 01:07:27,530 years ago when I went there you could 1249 01:07:33,150 --> 01:07:30,920 grow two ounces or two pounds of pot or 1250 01:07:38,350 --> 01:07:33,160 something on your own land you know 1251 01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:38,360 whatever you know everything so I mean 1252 01:07:41,620 --> 01:07:40,010 not that I was a great pot smoker but I 1253 01:07:44,110 --> 01:07:41,630 do remember the tour guide coming along 1254 01:07:49,420 --> 01:07:44,120 with a pipe to help me through the hot 1255 01:07:50,550 --> 01:07:49,430 summer afternoon and it has quite a 1256 01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:50,560 history 1257 01:07:56,410 --> 01:07:54,650 that's cool so I think probably a lot of 1258 01:08:00,190 --> 01:07:56,420 the people listening to this show would 1259 01:08:02,110 --> 01:08:00,200 really like to would enjoy going on the 1260 01:08:05,050 --> 01:08:02,120 UFO cruise you know because I think 1261 01:08:10,540 --> 01:08:05,060 that's quite a theme for your show well 1262 01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:10,550 it's probably our most what would you 1263 01:08:14,410 --> 01:08:12,890 say request that the topic may be by us 1264 01:08:18,099 --> 01:08:14,420 because we're the hosts and once you say 1265 01:08:22,750 --> 01:08:18,109 that we can't we keep it going the UFOs 1266 01:08:24,970 --> 01:08:22,760 and they like cryptozoology ah yeah 1267 01:08:26,849 --> 01:08:24,980 what's the what's what's the website if 1268 01:08:37,780 --> 01:08:26,859 people want to find out about the UFO 1269 01:08:39,670 --> 01:08:37,790 UFO cruise dot-com I don't have any 1270 01:08:41,500 --> 01:08:39,680 speakers up yet in fact some of the page 1271 01:08:43,090 --> 01:08:41,510 the pages are not all even done because 1272 01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:43,100 I just put it up recently 1273 01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:44,330 well you that you have a little bit of 1274 01:08:52,030 --> 01:08:47,330 time now oh definitely it's it's 2019 1275 01:08:54,670 --> 01:08:52,040 october 2019 so UFO cruise comm is the 1276 01:08:59,590 --> 01:08:54,680 place to go well you got to get you got 1277 01:09:01,300 --> 01:08:59,600 to get a few local UFO people you know 1278 01:09:03,789 --> 01:09:01,310 to meet you out there at the ruins there 1279 01:09:06,250 --> 01:09:03,799 we're ever gonna go to the describe 1280 01:09:08,230 --> 01:09:06,260 what's been going on you know Mexico of 1281 01:09:12,700 --> 01:09:08,240 course has been a very very you know 1282 01:09:14,890 --> 01:09:12,710 active places for going back 1283 01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:14,900 dov would you say remember back in the 1284 01:09:19,570 --> 01:09:17,810 early 1950s they were even having their 1285 01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:19,580 contacts and all work down there that 1286 01:09:24,460 --> 01:09:22,010 George Adamski he he was a 1287 01:09:28,090 --> 01:09:24,470 write it down to lecture and they sold 1288 01:09:30,210 --> 01:09:28,100 out a bull bull stadium whatever you 1289 01:09:33,670 --> 01:09:30,220 call that lay you know like the outdoor 1290 01:09:36,190 --> 01:09:33,680 stadium and they had they had a fellow 1291 01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:36,200 there he was a chauffeur I think he 1292 01:09:40,810 --> 01:09:39,050 actually drove a rundown taxi or 1293 01:09:43,350 --> 01:09:40,820 something but there was the they called 1294 01:09:47,140 --> 01:09:43,360 him the chauffeur and he had a contact 1295 01:09:49,510 --> 01:09:47,150 pretty much similar to what a Adamski 1296 01:09:52,930 --> 01:09:49,520 claimed of that and they they spoke 1297 01:09:55,540 --> 01:09:52,940 together he was a celebrity and Adamski 1298 01:10:01,150 --> 01:09:55,550 was pretty well known south of the 1299 01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:01,160 border as as well where did you find now 1300 01:10:07,060 --> 01:10:03,610 you did say you had a couple of UFO 1301 01:10:10,330 --> 01:10:07,070 sightings or so what we did what did you 1302 01:10:14,440 --> 01:10:10,340 have like your most the points are 1303 01:10:18,300 --> 01:10:14,450 concentrated area Doug he just 1304 01:10:20,770 --> 01:10:18,310 disappeared he's up in a higher 1305 01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:20,780 dimension there were you thinking to me 1306 01:10:27,220 --> 01:10:25,010 yeah yeah no I was in I was yes I was 1307 01:10:31,540 --> 01:10:27,230 asking if you ever went to an area that 1308 01:10:33,130 --> 01:10:31,550 you felt was all right well we'll take 1309 01:10:35,860 --> 01:10:33,140 it we'll take it around the table here 1310 01:10:38,440 --> 01:10:35,870 that was electrifying as far as the UFOs 1311 01:10:39,670 --> 01:10:38,450 when I know personal sightings or other 1312 01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:39,680 things that you had heard it you know 1313 01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:40,970 heard about what you were there any 1314 01:10:45,190 --> 01:10:43,250 place you can think of a fan that was 1315 01:10:48,610 --> 01:10:45,200 really energized as far as the 1316 01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:48,620 spaceships are concerned well I know in 1317 01:11:04,800 --> 01:10:55,330 Mexico in in Yucatan in Oaxaca and 1318 01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:04,810 Merida and Palenque and even Guatemala 1319 01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:08,050 they they believe very much in 1320 01:11:15,340 --> 01:11:13,250 extraterrestrial intermingling with the 1321 01:11:20,620 --> 01:11:15,350 people that then helped to build those 1322 01:11:23,850 --> 01:11:20,630 temples yes now I found him but I went 1323 01:11:27,370 --> 01:11:23,860 down there one time it was called the 1324 01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:27,380 blowhole and it was out in the you know 1325 01:11:32,980 --> 01:11:29,930 Alda on the shoreline and the water 1326 01:11:34,660 --> 01:11:32,990 would come it was like a you know a 1327 01:11:35,140 --> 01:11:34,670 Yosemite Park or something the water 1328 01:11:37,150 --> 01:11:35,150 would 1329 01:11:40,510 --> 01:11:37,160 rolled through there it shoot up into 1330 01:11:42,010 --> 01:11:40,520 the air every oh I don't know 25 minutes 1331 01:11:45,430 --> 01:11:42,020 or so you know right out right on time 1332 01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:45,440 this is it was predictable and settle 1333 01:11:49,810 --> 01:11:46,930 this is great it's a good tourist 1334 01:11:51,970 --> 01:11:49,820 attraction and then I go into town and 1335 01:11:53,380 --> 01:11:51,980 and here are they were big and doing 1336 01:11:56,410 --> 01:11:53,390 these like they're felt in velvet 1337 01:11:59,580 --> 01:11:56,420 paintings and they had this tapestry all 1338 01:12:02,470 --> 01:11:59,590 over town with a UFO hovering over this 1339 01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:02,480 this a tourist attraction to blow ho and 1340 01:12:06,790 --> 01:12:04,610 I I tried to communicate with a couple 1341 01:12:08,530 --> 01:12:06,800 people they said yeah you know yeah 1342 01:12:11,590 --> 01:12:08,540 there were many many sightings along the 1343 01:12:15,780 --> 01:12:11,600 coastline I don't know whether they were 1344 01:12:18,250 --> 01:12:15,790 had a base under the the border there or 1345 01:12:22,060 --> 01:12:18,260 we're just coming because it was a 1346 01:12:24,250 --> 01:12:22,070 glamorous place perhaps they'd like to 1347 01:12:26,170 --> 01:12:24,260 do a little bit of tourism themselves 1348 01:12:28,780 --> 01:12:26,180 you know I mean why why go to an ugly 1349 01:12:31,510 --> 01:12:28,790 spot we can go to Mexico and I've heard 1350 01:12:35,260 --> 01:12:31,520 above you know that's a beautiful place 1351 01:12:39,220 --> 01:12:35,270 and then but that reminds me of 1352 01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:39,230 operation in Hawaii or they they loved 1353 01:12:45,190 --> 01:12:41,090 the dolphins and they said that the 1354 01:12:50,140 --> 01:12:45,200 dolphins have a UFO base right off the 1355 01:12:53,530 --> 01:12:50,150 beach and some groups of people even 1356 01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:53,540 wrote books about it that they see the 1357 01:12:58,930 --> 01:12:55,610 spaceships going down in the bay in 1358 01:13:02,650 --> 01:12:58,940 those sea and coming out again and that 1359 01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:02,660 the Dolphins telepathically communicate 1360 01:13:07,030 --> 01:13:04,370 it to some of the people that go there 1361 01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:07,040 and do dolphin swims that there's an 1362 01:13:15,910 --> 01:13:11,090 Lemurian star base right beneath the sea 1363 01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:15,920 and it's a crystal made of crystals so 1364 01:13:20,710 --> 01:13:18,610 there's an underground crystal city with 1365 01:13:23,440 --> 01:13:20,720 extraterrestrials coming and going from 1366 01:13:26,130 --> 01:13:23,450 it and dolphins lived there and can 1367 01:13:28,750 --> 01:13:26,140 communicate with the extraterrestrials 1368 01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:28,760 and I guess the humans that are in the 1369 01:13:37,390 --> 01:13:32,090 area so that was a very interesting well 1370 01:13:39,700 --> 01:13:37,400 and they're watching India and in India 1371 01:13:42,370 --> 01:13:39,710 we had a contact with a group of 1372 01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:42,380 villagers who said they were in touch 1373 01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:47,050 with see mermaids 1374 01:13:53,910 --> 01:13:50,770 actual true living mermaids right then 1375 01:13:57,330 --> 01:13:53,920 and there and that they they had a face 1376 01:13:59,790 --> 01:13:57,340 off of the coast of where we were right 1377 01:14:02,970 --> 01:13:59,800 there and that spaceships would come in 1378 01:14:09,540 --> 01:14:02,980 and out in contact with a city of 1379 01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:09,550 mermaids in aqua men well and that yeah 1380 01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:11,610 that was similar to the like the 1381 01:14:19,610 --> 01:14:15,850 Atlantis and even the recent movie the 1382 01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:19,620 Justice League with the Aquaman linear 1383 01:14:28,740 --> 01:14:25,930 and way they did that what we did a book 1384 01:14:31,110 --> 01:14:28,750 Kahuna power and I went a couple of 1385 01:14:33,420 --> 01:14:31,120 times to Hawaii and met with the the 1386 01:14:36,450 --> 01:14:33,430 people there who had a study the 1387 01:14:38,310 --> 01:14:36,460 different you know legends and they have 1388 01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:38,320 they have their own name in all four 1389 01:14:46,260 --> 01:14:40,570 UFOs and they see them quite frequently 1390 01:14:49,230 --> 01:14:46,270 coming up out of the volcanoes there and 1391 01:14:51,630 --> 01:14:49,240 going across the sky and in some of them 1392 01:14:53,940 --> 01:14:51,640 actually land in people's trees and 1393 01:14:57,210 --> 01:14:53,950 other lose and and things like that 1394 01:15:00,600 --> 01:14:57,220 there's a whole Hawaiian culture in fact 1395 01:15:02,900 --> 01:15:00,610 it Jimi Hendrix is a an old video back 1396 01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:02,910 from the 70s I think it's called a 1397 01:15:11,580 --> 01:15:07,930 rainbow bridge and at his a concert that 1398 01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:11,590 he had there on a Maui after the the 1399 01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:14,050 show he plays a couple songs and all he 1400 01:15:20,310 --> 01:15:17,890 goes into a tent of some sort and he 1401 01:15:22,260 --> 01:15:20,320 sits cross-legged on the ground and he 1402 01:15:25,980 --> 01:15:22,270 shares with the other people their 1403 01:15:27,810 --> 01:15:25,990 stories about the space brothers and for 1404 01:15:29,850 --> 01:15:27,820 I don't know about 10 minutes or so he 1405 01:15:32,370 --> 01:15:29,860 sits there and he raps and they had they 1406 01:15:34,740 --> 01:15:32,380 had UFO sightings are doing his his 1407 01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:34,750 performance there but they were having 1408 01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:37,210 UFO sightings anyway I mean I don't know 1409 01:15:42,690 --> 01:15:40,210 whether I'm sure the music brought them 1410 01:15:45,270 --> 01:15:42,700 you know about the men that closer his 1411 01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:45,280 stunning guitar work but they did have 1412 01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:46,810 the you know I've been there and I've 1413 01:15:50,460 --> 01:15:48,370 talked to other people who had sightings 1414 01:15:55,440 --> 01:15:50,470 on a pretty regular basis and of course 1415 01:15:58,290 --> 01:15:55,450 when the volcano is ready to explode the 1416 01:16:00,870 --> 01:15:58,300 goddess Pele with her flaming red hair 1417 01:16:03,540 --> 01:16:00,880 is often seen walk 1418 01:16:04,620 --> 01:16:03,550 along the highway and people will pick 1419 01:16:06,900 --> 01:16:04,630 her up you know should be like 1420 01:16:10,980 --> 01:16:06,910 hitchhiking and she'll sit in the car 1421 01:16:14,430 --> 01:16:10,990 and say not a word but usually you know 1422 01:16:17,070 --> 01:16:14,440 she'll disappear and then a day or two 1423 01:16:23,610 --> 01:16:17,080 later the volcano will you know after 1424 01:16:26,100 --> 01:16:23,620 the novel will start flowing yes but 1425 01:16:31,940 --> 01:16:26,110 when my wife and I were there they used 1426 01:16:35,730 --> 01:16:31,950 to call her Pele she was a small older 1427 01:16:38,220 --> 01:16:35,740 oriental woman and and that's the who 1428 01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:38,230 the legend of Pele is when she came back 1429 01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:41,170 she was fears a small older Hawaiian 1430 01:16:47,330 --> 01:16:43,090 woman hitchhiking and they said you 1431 01:17:01,440 --> 01:16:59,430 whenever our cars break down now you say 1432 01:17:05,610 --> 01:17:01,450 you're in touch with her that she is on 1433 01:17:08,010 --> 01:17:05,620 Venus yes good because we did an 1434 01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:08,020 interplanetary mission together for 27 1435 01:17:13,530 --> 01:17:10,690 years on this planet and our teachings 1436 01:17:15,510 --> 01:17:13,540 were that we weren't from here we were 1437 01:17:18,390 --> 01:17:15,520 from other planets and she was from 1438 01:17:20,670 --> 01:17:18,400 Venus and I was from Jupiter and we were 1439 01:17:24,090 --> 01:17:20,680 here doing doing a mission for the 1440 01:17:27,030 --> 01:17:24,100 people so when she passed on it wasn't 1441 01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:27,040 the end she just went to Venus and so 1442 01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:30,250 she's there now and there's been so many 1443 01:17:36,150 --> 01:17:33,210 instances that have occurred in my life 1444 01:17:38,550 --> 01:17:36,160 that make me know that she really is on 1445 01:17:40,950 --> 01:17:38,560 Venus and that we're communicating and 1446 01:17:45,440 --> 01:17:40,960 she's still in touch with me and still 1447 01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:45,450 assisting the work that we're doing and 1448 01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:49,330 so it's very important that people know 1449 01:17:53,850 --> 01:17:51,610 that their loved ones are Twin Flames 1450 01:17:56,130 --> 01:17:53,860 their soul mates when they died if they 1451 01:17:58,580 --> 01:17:56,140 don't just die I mean every team again 1452 01:18:01,290 --> 01:17:58,590 that's there they are 1453 01:18:04,290 --> 01:18:01,300 that's factors we you know Susan I 1454 01:18:06,330 --> 01:18:04,300 wanted I wanted to ask you Susan have 1455 01:18:09,420 --> 01:18:06,340 you ever had any UFO experiences or 1456 01:18:10,590 --> 01:18:09,430 anything out of the paranormal well I 1457 01:18:14,490 --> 01:18:10,600 I've had 1458 01:18:16,230 --> 01:18:14,500 I have mystical paranormal 1459 01:18:17,850 --> 01:18:16,240 says all the time I communicate with 1460 01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:17,860 divine beings I communicate with 1461 01:18:22,890 --> 01:18:20,650 ascended masters and all the things that 1462 01:18:25,290 --> 01:18:22,900 dr. Raj has been talking about I have 1463 01:18:28,770 --> 01:18:25,300 experienced these kinds of things as far 1464 01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:28,780 as UFOs when we were up in on amantani 1465 01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:31,570 island in the middle of lake titicaca in 1466 01:18:40,970 --> 01:18:36,850 peru and i people go on tours to crew 1467 01:18:43,740 --> 01:18:40,980 every year through my divine travels 1468 01:18:46,530 --> 01:18:43,750 company I have a company where where we 1469 01:18:51,180 --> 01:18:46,540 have a people can go there anytime but 1470 01:18:53,250 --> 01:18:51,190 we have a set one for the set tour for 1471 01:18:55,620 --> 01:18:53,260 the Solstice for the June solstice every 1472 01:18:58,020 --> 01:18:55,630 year so one time we were up there on 1473 01:19:00,210 --> 01:18:58,030 amantani island which is as I said in 1474 01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:00,220 the middle of Lake Titicaca it's a very 1475 01:19:06,530 --> 01:19:04,090 steep island you you walk up it's 1476 01:19:10,530 --> 01:19:06,540 probably a thousand feet as you walk up 1477 01:19:17,550 --> 01:19:10,540 but as far as the altitude goes and it's 1478 01:19:23,010 --> 01:19:17,560 it's 40,000 I'm sorry it's at 14,000 1479 01:19:24,750 --> 01:19:23,020 feet so it's really high altitude and we 1480 01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:24,760 were doing a ceremony up there there was 1481 01:19:29,010 --> 01:19:26,770 a shaman and he was doing a fire 1482 01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:29,020 ceremony and in the middle of the fire 1483 01:19:36,650 --> 01:19:32,010 ceremony where there was about 30 of us 1484 01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:36,660 on that on that particular tour and 1485 01:19:42,620 --> 01:19:40,810 there was a sighting of it of a what we 1486 01:19:46,740 --> 01:19:42,630 thought was a flying saucer that that 1487 01:19:49,110 --> 01:19:46,750 visited us during the ceremony oh yeah 1488 01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:49,120 that was the only time I've ever had any 1489 01:19:53,870 --> 01:19:51,970 kind of experience like that well we had 1490 01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:53,880 we have one of our waters you know a 1491 01:19:58,920 --> 01:19:55,210 publishing company 1492 01:20:00,990 --> 01:19:58,930 Joshua Shapiro has been to Peru 1493 01:20:04,110 --> 01:20:01,000 of course he's he's big he's written on 1494 01:20:06,690 --> 01:20:04,120 the Crystal Skull yeah you know a 1495 01:20:09,450 --> 01:20:06,700 collection then yeah he's had UFO 1496 01:20:12,480 --> 01:20:09,460 experiences while he was there more Peru 1497 01:20:17,970 --> 01:20:12,490 and in fact that we have a series of 1498 01:20:19,350 --> 01:20:17,980 books by a George hunt Williamson Roger 1499 01:20:23,820 --> 01:20:19,360 I'm sure you're familiar with that name 1500 01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:23,830 and I hear about yeah yeah he talks he 1501 01:20:27,810 --> 01:20:25,690 yeah he wrote it under the name of 1502 01:20:31,470 --> 01:20:27,820 brother Phillip 1503 01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:31,480 about the the Sun disc from mu which is 1504 01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:40,379 it's an enchanting country you know for 1505 01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:43,690 sure at an experience that people should 1506 01:20:53,879 --> 01:20:46,210 if they have the opportunity to get to 1507 01:20:57,319 --> 01:20:53,889 get involved all involved so now you 1508 01:21:00,390 --> 01:20:57,329 know I have to ask you there Roger about 1509 01:21:02,339 --> 01:21:00,400 the ashtar command have you ever done 1510 01:21:11,939 --> 01:21:02,349 anything like that the direct channeling 1511 01:21:14,819 --> 01:21:11,949 yourself yes III did I did I came in 1512 01:21:19,169 --> 01:21:14,829 touch with the a shark man in a very 1513 01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:19,179 special way and at that time we were 1514 01:21:30,020 --> 01:21:24,489 given them inner circle meetings and 1515 01:21:37,819 --> 01:21:30,030 workings with some Ashtar and monka and 1516 01:21:41,069 --> 01:21:37,829 court Ron on the mountaintop of 1517 01:21:43,109 --> 01:21:41,079 California and there was a temple built 1518 01:21:45,450 --> 01:21:43,119 for them and they came and we sat in 1519 01:21:50,629 --> 01:21:45,460 Council with them receiving lots of 1520 01:21:54,629 --> 01:21:50,639 messages from Ashtar and the Lord monka 1521 01:21:57,180 --> 01:21:54,639 in court Ron the space Confederation 1522 01:22:00,569 --> 01:21:57,190 well that must have been long short was 1523 01:22:03,780 --> 01:22:00,579 Bob short with you know but we met him 1524 01:22:07,410 --> 01:22:03,790 at another time yeah I was important he 1525 01:22:12,300 --> 01:22:07,420 always channeled yeah we're done yeah he 1526 01:22:14,700 --> 01:22:12,310 went with us in the UFO meeting down in 1527 01:22:17,700 --> 01:22:14,710 the Yucatan and he went with us when we 1528 01:22:20,550 --> 01:22:17,710 went to the temple there in the pyramids 1529 01:22:23,069 --> 01:22:20,560 he was doing with the blue blue rose 1530 01:22:25,350 --> 01:22:23,079 ministry that's right yeah he's he 1531 01:22:28,919 --> 01:22:25,360 stilled he's one of the he's one of the 1532 01:22:31,709 --> 01:22:28,929 last remaining giant rock boys you know 1533 01:22:35,689 --> 01:22:31,719 he still lives with the Shirley out 1534 01:22:41,549 --> 01:22:35,699 there in Cottonwood I believe they are 1535 01:22:43,109 --> 01:22:41,559 there and what is the late latest 1536 01:22:44,669 --> 01:22:43,119 you know people say to me well what's 1537 01:22:47,010 --> 01:22:44,679 the latest in the Antarctic man because 1538 01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:47,020 there aren't a lot of people that are 1539 01:22:53,370 --> 01:22:48,730 publishing they're channeling messages 1540 01:22:58,069 --> 01:22:53,380 anymore well I don't know one thing that 1541 01:23:00,080 --> 01:22:58,079 I noticed is there began to be 101 1542 01:23:04,529 --> 01:23:00,090 dalmations 1543 01:23:06,299 --> 01:23:04,539 variations of Ashtar accountings with 1544 01:23:09,270 --> 01:23:06,309 the air the proliferation of the 1545 01:23:12,839 --> 01:23:09,280 internet and everybody in their brother 1546 01:23:15,419 --> 01:23:12,849 was confused about what was the real 1547 01:23:18,660 --> 01:23:15,429 Lashkar and visited real life star and 1548 01:23:20,879 --> 01:23:18,670 this Darrell I'm sorry it's the same 1549 01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:20,889 story you know that those aren't even 1550 01:23:27,899 --> 01:23:24,489 about Jesus and Buddha and Muhammad and 1551 01:23:29,549 --> 01:23:27,909 all the spiritual teachers and then they 1552 01:23:33,089 --> 01:23:29,559 come when they go and then they become 1553 01:23:36,029 --> 01:23:33,099 question specified or or in doubt as to 1554 01:23:38,970 --> 01:23:36,039 whether they really even existed and I 1555 01:23:42,299 --> 01:23:38,980 think the ashtar phenomena it might go 1556 01:23:44,069 --> 01:23:42,309 into that kind of a situation how do you 1557 01:23:47,910 --> 01:23:44,079 know if you're having a legitimate to 1558 01:23:51,270 --> 01:23:47,920 contact or the person that you're your 1559 01:23:54,540 --> 01:23:51,280 head country channel for you that it's a 1560 01:23:57,359 --> 01:23:54,550 legitimate and not some wayward just 1561 01:24:01,080 --> 01:23:57,369 spirit well that is a very good question 1562 01:24:03,209 --> 01:24:01,090 and it's been a question of Ages and I 1563 01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:03,219 think there's two ways that we've been 1564 01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:06,610 told to know and one is that our inner 1565 01:24:12,750 --> 01:24:10,449 voice our inner voice will let us know 1566 01:24:16,049 --> 01:24:12,760 the truth our inner feelings our 1567 01:24:19,919 --> 01:24:16,059 intercut the gut feeling and if we don't 1568 01:24:24,419 --> 01:24:19,929 seem to have that then they say by their 1569 01:24:27,299 --> 01:24:24,429 fruit you will know it so well we are we 1570 01:24:30,510 --> 01:24:27,309 are running we are running down to the 1571 01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:30,520 wire as they say here one last time 1572 01:24:38,359 --> 01:24:32,650 Roger how do people get in touch with 1573 01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:38,369 you what is the website star star Cubs 1574 01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:41,770 calm all right and look for some great 1575 01:24:47,549 --> 01:24:44,050 has to be yeah has to be put on the 1576 01:24:49,649 --> 01:24:47,559 mailing list or yeah therefore that we 1577 01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:49,659 they can go to marketing with the stars 1578 01:24:53,779 --> 01:24:52,210 are Tom and see our marketing program 1579 01:24:57,290 --> 01:24:53,789 and they 1580 01:25:03,410 --> 01:24:57,300 some email to me asking to go on the 1581 01:25:04,100 --> 01:25:03,420 list you are a and star doves calm all 1582 01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:04,110 right 1583 01:25:12,709 --> 01:25:07,530 and Susan one last time what's your main 1584 01:25:16,759 --> 01:25:12,719 site there dr. Susan or RG that's dr. 1585 01:25:20,509 --> 01:25:16,769 Susan dot o-r-g and then I have also 1586 01:25:25,490 --> 01:25:20,519 divine travels that's plural on the 1587 01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:25,500 travels divine travels dot-com and the 1588 01:25:31,359 --> 01:25:29,610 UFO also UFO cruise calm and of course 1589 01:25:35,660 --> 01:25:31,369 your books are available I'm sure on 1590 01:25:40,339 --> 01:25:35,670 Amazon and I wanted to yeah I want to 1591 01:25:43,580 --> 01:25:40,349 thank our producer Tina our guest this 1592 01:25:46,549 --> 01:25:43,590 evening my co-host in shorts I want to 1593 01:25:50,839 --> 01:25:46,559 thank Peter for his indulgence and 1594 01:25:54,529 --> 01:25:50,849 getting us up on YouTube every week I 1595 01:25:57,770 --> 01:25:54,539 want to thank Carol and Helen and all 1596 01:26:01,299 --> 01:25:57,780 the great listeners out there tell your 1597 01:26:05,450 --> 01:26:01,309 friends tune in every Thursday night for 1598 01:26:07,700 --> 01:26:05,460 exploring the bizarre and Tim I guess 1599 01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:07,710 we'll uh we'll be talking over the 1600 01:26:13,069 --> 01:26:10,170 weekend that we've got some really great 1601 01:26:17,020 --> 01:26:13,079 shows I think lined up in the next 1602 01:26:21,620 --> 01:26:17,030 couple of weeks right that's right and 1603 01:26:22,390 --> 01:26:21,630 anyway here comes the the master of us 1604 01:26:30,030 --> 01:26:22,400 all 1605 01:26:34,290 --> 01:26:30,040 been listening to exploring the bazaar 1606 01:26:37,149 --> 01:26:34,300 with hosts Timothy Beckley and to Swartz 1607 01:26:40,060 --> 01:26:37,159 they're taking back the night by jetting 1608 01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:40,070 non-stop across the cosmos in search of 1609 01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:42,170 the truly bizarre and totally 1610 01:26:48,470 --> 01:26:45,970 unexplained with you as they're cold 1611 01:26:50,879 --> 01:26:48,480 Thursday nights at 7:00 p.m. Pacific 1612 01:26:54,130 --> 01:26:50,889 10:00 p.m. 1613 01:26:56,590 --> 01:26:54,140 on the K cor digital radio 1614 01:27:00,040 --> 01:26:56,600 for more information on exploring the 1615 01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:00,050 bazaars and hosts Timothy Becca and Tim 1616 01:27:06,010 --> 01:27:02,930 Swartz check out their K cor digital 1617 01:27:12,220 --> 01:27:06,020 radio network follow their YouTube